skyblueinBaku
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I asked about EU's concessions during the negotiations. Article 50 has been in existence for a long time, therefore it isn't a concession made during these negotiations.
I asked about EU's concessions during the negotiations. Article 50 has been in existence for a long time, therefore it isn't a concession made during these negotiations.Eh? Don't know what you mean?
I asked about EU's concessions during the negotiations. Article 50 has been in existence for a long time, therefore it isn't a concession made during these negotiations.
We are obviously posting at cross purposes. My original question was about what concessions the EU has made in these negotiations. Tony suggested that Article 50 is a concession, hence a few posts about about it. I would still like to know what concessions the EU has made in these negotiations.Who said it was? You asked if it had been written for the purpose of the UK leaving. It wasn't, it was written to be part of the process should any country want to leave.
It's nothing to do with any concession
We are obviously posting at cross purposes. My original question was about what concessions the EU has made in these negotiations. Tony suggested that Article 50 is a concession, hence a few posts about about it. I would still like to know what concessions the EU has made in these negotiations.
We are obviously posting at cross purposes. My original question was about what concessions the EU has made in these negotiations. Tony suggested that Article 50 is a concession, hence a few posts about about it. I would still like to know what concessions the EU has made in these negotiations.
I don't know whether they will or not. However, negotiations usually involve 'give and take' on both sides. If the EU doesn't make any concessions, it's hardly a negotiation, is it?I don't know that they have and I'm not sure why anyone thinks they will.
There was a theories like the one that German car manufacturers would be able to put pressure on their government to make a deal happen but right from the start the German manufacturing association (BDI I think) said maintaining the EU and the single market was priority.
I don't know whether they will or not. However, negotiations usually involve 'give and take' on both sides. If the EU doesn't make any concessions, it's hardly a negotiation, is it?
Before the Lisbon Treaty there was no mechanism for leaving the EU. Article 50 is set of prerequisite concessions, terms and conditions so a country can leave the EU.
Thats odd Tony - you stated before that we had a referendum 40 years ago on the issue - was the Lisbon Treaty that long ago - my how time flies
WTF are you talking about now? Is it distraction o’clock already?
You said there was no mechanism to leave before the treaty Tony
Oh. I know where this is going. This is where you try to claim that Greenland was a full member not a crown dependency when it left the EU after it gained independence from Denmark.
My mistake. It’s not distraction o’clock it’s grendull talking bollocks again o’clock. Although it’s still a distraction.
Having enough customs officers hardly even registers on what is needed.I wouldn't know to be honest. I know several countries have taken on large numbers of extra customs officers but I don't know beyond that.
But again, no deal will hurt them, but the burden will be shared. We will take a massive hit.
Are you sure?The concession is a mechanism to leave. The mechanics of leaving has been known for some time and leave should be about following article 50. Not article 50 except this or article 50 plus that. It’s hardly breaking news.
Just over half wanted to leave. Just under half wanted to stay.We wrote the rules with the other members. Now we want them to change the rules we helped write because half of our country wants them to. The other half of the population thinks Brexit is mad and understands why the 27 other countries are not going to roll over.
Not his fault. He doesn't seem to know the meaning of the word concessions.Then that is hardly a concession by the EU in these negotiations, is it?
Just over half wanted to leave. Just under half wanted to stay.
Even most of those who wanted to remain can't believe what length the EU has gone to to try and get us to remain. Nothing to do with agreeing with the shitfest that is occurring.
I don't know whether they will or not. However, negotiations usually involve 'give and take' on both sides. If the EU doesn't make any concessions, it's hardly a negotiation, is it?
Now it is more for remain according to poll trackers. But not by much, so 50:50 is not far off.
What lengths has the EU gone to? They have their club rules and we want them to change them. We have our red lines which do not comply with the existing rules of the EU. Whose fault is that?
It's madness some still think this way and that the EU is doing all it can to thwart Brexit.
You'd have thought some self-reflection may have taken place as to why he banged the government drum about cars and wine. Obviously those who mislead the public and who were utterly incompetent get little scrutiny and the blame is focused on the EU.
EU rules?Now it is more for remain according to poll trackers. But not by much, so 50:50 is not far off.
What lengths has the EU gone to? They have their club rules and we want them to change them. We have our red lines which do not comply with the existing rules of the EU. Whose fault is that?
Shall we wait until any deal is reached?It's negotiations in all but name and always has been and the UK will inevitably end up having to accept what's on offer or leave without a deal.
We were told by leavers in government and on here that we'd get special treatment as people in the UK buy German cars, drink Italian wine and eat French cheese and that the UK had the upperhand; unsurprisingly it's turned out to be complete crap.
So you think that the EU doesn't want a deal and are totally incompetent?It's madness some still think this way and that the EU is doing all it can to thwart Brexit.
You'd have thought some self-reflection may have taken place as to why he banged the government drum about cars and wine. Obviously those who mislead the public and who were utterly incompetent get little scrutiny and the blame is focused on the EU.
So no suffering on a big scale?Some posters will just not see what is happening. They will go on about Selmayr and Juncker and hope that the EU will also suffer. Yes, of course it will, but not like the UK.
Latest OBR comment:
„The OBR described these calculations as plausible and in line with its own estimates, noting that the UK had slipped from having the highest growth rate in the G7 before the vote, to the lowest now.“
They compare a possible no deal scenario as comparable to the 3 day week in the 70s which led to a recession.
So you think that the EU doesn't want a deal and are totally incompetent?
EU rules?
Yes the EU rules mean that they must discuss and remedy the fact of us leaving. Not exactly happening is it.
And then the fact of the EU breaking rules and regulations when it suits flies over some people's heads.
It's madness some still think this way and that the EU is doing all it can to thwart Brexit.
You'd have thought some self-reflection may have taken place as to why he banged the government drum about cars and wine. Obviously those who mislead the public and who were utterly incompetent get little scrutiny and the blame is focused on the EU.
So no suffering on a big scale?
Trillions of reasons why EU needs a deal: Bank of England warns of risk to European lenders | This is Money
So what is your take on the matter?
Nothing unusual there then.What you said had nothing to do with my post and was a mere reflection away from your own wide of the mark predictions/'the truth'.
So comment about the link I provided for you and explain why nothing has been done. Because when it.is the UK not prepared for something you l9ve it and constantly mention it.
Don't forget it's the EU that's incompetent haha
Yes 3 possible solutions.Here is a sane explanation of 3 possible solutions to the problem being discussed in Germany:
https://www.iwkoeln.de/fileadmin/pu.../IW-Kurzbericht_22_2017_Financial_Markets.pdf
Don't forget it's the EU that's incompetent haha
Yes 3 possible solutions.
So how far are they along with any of them?
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