Astute
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Bollocks
BollocksHe never said 64% would vote leave. 64% would back a fresh referendum according to what he highlighted. 46% would back leave in a referendum.
Bollocks
You're entitled to that opinion, but it seems more and more people think it's a good idea -- 54% of those polled would be 'screaming babies', in fact, some of them would've voted leave in 2016. 64% of those polled favours Remain if May's deal is voted down in Parliament, and there's definitely Brexiteers who would've flipped sides in that scenario.
You was saying......
My point?Your point?
Maybe if the EU didn't lend money to countries and companies outside the EU to take manufacturing jobs away from the UK...........
Is this your way of defending the EU again?Didn't realise they all paid Maggie to take a knife to British industry.
The UK has just had yet another month of record employment.
So Germany is having a problem and just because of the diesel scandal that the EU let them get away with as long as it could? I thought you said that the 20,000 jobs lost in the German car industry if we leave without a deal wouldn't be a problem.
Isn't it strange that the UK is the only country that will have major problems.
Here it is again from the one you just put up yet again. Read it and reconsider what it says. It isn't that 64% would vote leave as you keep saying.
This is from YouGov as you keep saying. But why should all other polls be ignored as they are not from YouGov?
Germany? Where did I mention them here? Of course I didn't but you will 've agreed with as usual.The EU also let our bankers get away with blue murder in the 2000s. Stop acting like it's a back door effort for the Germans to take over
Is this your way of defending the EU again?
It is disgusting how people defend the EU over what they did to UK manufacturing jobs.
Accepted and we can move on.I’ve misinterpreted the data, I accept that. Honest mistake.
The statistics, fortunately, still favour my narrative that there should be a second referendum, especially if May’s deal is rejected in Parliament.
Germany? Where did I mention them here? Of course I didn't but you will 've agreed with as usual.
When have I ever said any differently? If you actually ever read what I say you will see that I have a massive dislike of Maggie and Bliar. But yet I get questioned on here how I can dislike Bliar if I am a Labour voterThe Conservative party and new Labour did far more to knife our industries in the back than the EU. We had our own companies and our own businesses but Maggie thought better before her lovechild Tony finished the job.
The German economy is proof she was wrong.
No. I said previously that the EU did nothing. They knew about it well before the rest of the world. Yet they are supposed to be trying their best to reduce pollution. Work that one out.There is nobody I agree with here on all of the issues but you did just talk about Germany getting away with the diesel scandal...
Are you saying Germany is doing well so the rest of the EU is doing well? You are even wrong on Germany doing well. But let's forget about that point.
As I have said countless times before it is a good reason for the EU to want a trade deal with us. But the doom mongers on here don't want to see the truth.
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No. I said previously that the EU did nothing. They knew about it well before the rest of the world. Yet they are supposed to be trying their best to reduce pollution. Work that one out.
European commission warned of car emissions test cheating, five years before VW scandal
Was it just now like you made out?So you did talk about Germany then...
When have I ever said any differently? If you actually ever read what I say you will see that I have a massive dislike of Maggie and Bliar. But yet I get questioned on here how I can dislike Bliar if I am a Labour voter
20 billion? More like 100 billion plus.Said elsewhere that Germany wasn't tantamount to the Eurozone but are they in better shape as a country, no question. The result of decades of a prudent common sense approach to governance. Industry talks to education to fill skills gaps. People are paid to recycle. The trains run on time and they profit even from our privatised system.
There is not the obsessive desire to hang onto former glories or to resist innovation. They wouldn't spunk £20 billion on a single high speed rail line either. We can either learn from their example or stick two fingers up and pretend we know best.
Was it just now like you made out?
20 billion? More like 100 billion plus.
I will blame who is to blame for each event. And not keep quiet about Bliar, Maggie or the EU as they are all to blame in ways.So you agree with me and we can stop blaming Johnny Foreigner for the loss of our industries.
Which I have said about several times. Yet you still say I am biasedI was being generous to us but you are just reinforcing my point.
Which I have said about several times. Yet you still say I am biased
So when was it? And was I right? And did any pro EU whatever make any sort of comment? Of course not as it looks and is very bad for the EU. Them letting the German auto makers get away with it has caused untold deaths. But to some it isn't a problem. And they don't want it mentioning.I directly quoted you so, yes. Very bizarre are you becoming forgetful in old age?
I will blame who is to blame for each event. And not keep quiet about Bliar, Maggie or the EU as they are all to blame in ways.
For the future it is a good move. Short term not. Everything is becoming automated. Jobs are being taken over by machines. Where I work we even have FLT's without drivers. We have robots doing intricate jobs. Most people taken on now are either electrical/mechanical to keep them going. Manufacturing jobs are going at a quick rate. But production isn't going down.The bulk of the damage done was by our own governments who thought that financial services alone would do the job.
So when was it? And was I right? And did any pro EU whatever make any sort of comment? Of course not as it looks and is very bad for the EU. Them letting the German auto makers get away with it has caused untold deaths. But to some it isn't a problem. And they don't want it mentioning.
But if it was a UK manufacturer would they have tried sweeping it under the carpet?
For the future it is a good move. Short term not. Everything is becoming automated. Jobs are being taken over by machines. Where I work we even have FLT's without drivers. We have robots doing intricate jobs. Most people taken on now are either electrical/mechanical to keep them going. Manufacturing jobs are going at a quick rate. But production isn't going down.
They knew in 2010 IIRC. They could have at least quietly warned them. But they let them continue as they were. And countless people have lost their lives because of it.There is no incentive for it to screw the industry of one of its biggest economies.
The cheap choice will be made. We work for shareholders these days. They don't care about the people. They just want as much profit as they can get. And it won't be shared with anyone who needs it. Otherwise it could be used to reduce the working week.Technology could be what helps humanity to create a prosperous future for us all, or it could be used to entrench billions in poverty. Hopefully we make the right choice
They knew in 2010 IIRC. They could have at least quietly warned them. But they let them continue as they were. And countless people have lost their lives because of it.
It could have been stopped straight away. They could have moved back to petrol engines or paid more money as they could have to make them safe.
The cheap choice will be made. We work for shareholders these days. They don't care about the people. They just want as much profit as they can get. And it won't be shared with anyone who needs it. Otherwise it could be used to reduce the working week.
But as usual the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. Some things will never change.
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