Doesn't help that you have Cameron and Osbourne on the one side and then Boris and Gove on the other.
Doesn't help that you have Cameron and Osbourne on the one side and then Boris and Gove on the other.
i get the joke but i tihnk important to look at that point
cameron and osbourne may have their flaws but seriously when you put them up against brois johnson,nigel farage and trump(advocating leave) how can anyone still vote OUT?
Possibly they are considering the issues rather than being fans of a particular politician?
Not advising anyone to change their mind but if we weren't in the eu and the voting was to join or stay out what would people do?
Completely different scenario.
Not really. Just looking from another perspective.
Staying in the Eu is to a certain extent and unknown quantity with more countries due to join over the next few years and our negotiation position weakened if we remain. Do we stay with something that doesn't really work for us or try another route that may or may not work for us?
It isn't unknown, it is quite known (as far as I am concerned). More countries will join. I think I know what you mean about negotiation position (saying if we remain we are accepting it for what it is?), but in all honesty I don't see the big problem that people have. Why don't you think the EU works for us?
because immigrants taking all our jobs innit
because immigrants taking all our jobs innit
Boris will be backed by the tory press to become p.m, once he takes over Gove and I.B.S will be back in cabinet.I genuinely don't see how any of them can hold a position of power after this!
No not like that at all. Its a bit simplisitc and very narrow minded of you if you dont mind me saying.
We are less and less in control of many many things that go on. Laws, rules regulations. As more countries join our voice will be further diluted. Immigration does play a part. We are not able to cope with the mass immigration that has been happening over the last 10 years or so. Thats not solely down to EU membership but I can't see it helping us moving forward as our infrastructure is not coping well at the moment.
I think we could spend our taxes a bit more wisely than we do or are forced to do on certian things if we came out.
There is a big world and big market outside the EU and moving away from it instead of reducing trade might just release the shackles.
Really? I don't know whether to be concerned for you, or whether you're lyingI will be voting out because I believe that the EU is corrupt, dictatorial and restrictive. I can see no benefit to the UK remaining.
I also believe that the UK will in fact vote to leave. I base this on the belief that the polls are forecasting a close-run outcome but cannot factor-in the likelihood that 'leavers' are likely to be more motivated to get up and vote than remainers.
Having said all that, bizarrely from a personal perspective I am hoping for a remain verdict as I have a big import deal dependent upon a strong GBP.
I will be voting out because I believe that the EU is corrupt, dictatorial and restrictive. I can see no benefit to the UK remaining.
I also believe that the UK will in fact vote to leave. I base this on the belief that the polls are forecasting a close-run outcome but cannot factor-in the likelihood that 'leavers' are likely to be more motivated to get up and vote than remainers.
Having said all that, bizarrely from a personal perspective I am hoping for a remain verdict as I have a big import deal dependent upon a strong GBP.
I will be voting out because I believe that the EU is corrupt, dictatorial and restrictive. I can see no benefit to the UK remaining.
I also believe that the UK will in fact vote to leave. I base this on the belief that the polls are forecasting a close-run outcome but cannot factor-in the likelihood that 'leavers' are likely to be more motivated to get up and vote than remainers.
Having said all that, bizarrely from a personal perspective I am hoping for a remain verdict as I have a big import deal dependent upon a strong GBP.
Which EU rules do you have a problem with? Have any had an effect on you?
The immigration argument is annoying. Roughly half of immigration this year was from outside of the EU. For me its do either 1 of 2 things. 1) build new towns etc. and anger the country folk that love their greenbelt, or 2) shut the door completely. This middle ground people speak of (only letting skilled people in) will not change a thing if you ask me (you might slightly reduce the number coming in but a vast number will still be coming here).
The EU membership costs us roughly 8.5 billion pounds (inclusive of the rebate) which is roughly 1% of our total economy. So in my opinion I don't think it would make much difference, especially if you are putting the economy at risk by leaving. We have already had massive cuts on public funding, could everything cope if we had to make further cuts (this is short term obviously)?
A vote leave is a vote for democracy. To have unelected Brussels politicians that you have voted for and can't remove that affect daily life in the UK is bizarre that people still want this and it's certainly not democratic.
Calling farage a racist is interesting as 4 million people including myself voted for ukip just a year ago so 4 million racists in this country. Interesting
I am subject to plenty of eu rules and laws via work. It costs me money and lots of time and effort so its not the best starting point.
We have regulations from the EU on where and how the rebate is spent. I'd rather us not pay in and spend it how and where we need to instead of under instruction from someone we have no connection to.
We have massive problems with immigration and not on the jobs front but primarily on public services. Just ignoring it is not going to solve the issue. I'm really not sure how we go about soving it but staying in the EU isn't going to make it get any better with more countries joining.
I'm regulated at work by the FCA. I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't exist in their current form if it wasn't for the EU and they certainly wouldn't have been overseeing what I do. Loads of hoops to jump through, massive increases in paperwork, Bi annual accounts submitted and ongoing training are just a few things off the top of my head and I have to pay quite a bit for the pleasure.
Succesive governments tell us how they are putiing more than ever into the NHS. They probably are but when we have 300k new people a year coming in over a 10-15 year period the extra investment is nowhere near enough. Schools are in a similar position. GP's get more money than ever but we wait for weeks to get appointments.
I didn't want to get on the immigration trail as it's only one of plenty of issues with the EU but hey ho.
Well I can't comment on your personal circumstances but I am pretty sure the FCA (or similar) would exist without the EU. I don't buy the schools line. Our population is very old. All the public service problems we have are down to the current government not the EU.
270,000 people entered the country from the EU this year. 277,000 people entered the country from outside the EU. Is the EU the problem?
So you want to give more power to the totally trustworthy Cameron and Osbourne?I will be voting out because I believe that the EU is corrupt, dictatorial and restrictive.
I think which ever way the vote goes is democracy in action.A vote leave is a vote for democracy. To have unelected Brussels politicians that you have voted for and can't remove that affect daily life in the UK is bizarre that people still want this and it's certainly not democratic.
Calling farage a racist is interesting as 4 million people including myself voted for ukip just a year ago so 4 million racists in this country. Interesting
So you want to give more power to the totally trustworthy Cameron and Osbourne?
But the one massive difference (that you failed to mention) is that the 277,000 non EU people that were allowed to enter the UK last year would have gone through an extremely complex and stringent process to gain entry. These non EU migrants would have had to prove that they are here to benefit the nation by fitting the skills criteria that we have a shortfall of in this country, also, if they were to even have the slightest blemish on their criminal record they would be refused, no such thing if you are from an EU member state.Well I can't comment on your personal circumstances but I am pretty sure the FCA (or similar) would exist without the EU. I don't buy the schools line. Our population is very old. All the public service problems we have are down to the current government not the EU.
270,000 people entered the country from the EU this year. 277,000 people entered the country from outside the EU. Is the EU the problem?
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