skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
I’m not saying anything. You’re saying it isn’t possible. It clearly is and you don’t have to look for very long to find that out.
So you have a list of trade agreements but not what they are. The devil is in the detail. But of course you won't mention the detail if you find out what it is.
Are you saying this is our way forward? As you seem to think that we don't need to have much to do with the EU to get a trade deal with them.
Of course we’d get a free trade deal in a very short space of time once the agreement to leave was signed
Do you agree with Astute that we would then need to stay in the SM?
You are so funny at times.Seems you are in agreement that membership gives us the best possible deal. Use the existing rules on FOM and block any further integration that we don’t like should keep you happy.
Basically this whole Brexit crap is damaging and, if you ignore the lies spread by leave, a total waste of time and energy.
Economic sense from which side?We shouldn’t have to no. I’m sure the Eu would initially try and take that approach but in the end economic sense would prevail
Are you real?Utter nonsense, the only person who has just claimed the EU would offer the UK a deal is Grendel.
Why would you worry about parliament keeping the UK in the SM if you are all for remain and moving to France?
My fault for trying to have a debate with certain people. And this includes yourself.And you accuse others of making it impossible to debate anything.
Show me where I have said it isn't possible. Of course you can't. But it looks good in a post that goes against everything you have said since you voted for UKIP.I’m not saying anything. You’re saying it isn’t possible. It clearly is and you don’t have to look for very long to find that out.
No. You stated we wouldn't need to keep FOM to be able to trade freely with the EU.
I will admit I am wrong if someone can explain to me how I am wrong. But this doesn't mean saying the EU would make an exception for us because there has been no sign of it.
There’s one deal on Tony’s wiki list that is pretty much complete free trade without restrictions and the reason for the EU doing it shows why actually Germany wouldn’t allow the uk to crash out and would demand a free trade arrangement with the uk
Apparently?Apparently you won’t admit that you are wrong.
Are you real?
What sign is there so far that we will remain in the EU?
So what is the next best thing? Oh yes. Staying in the single market. But shall we ignore the truth?
We Won't stay in the EU, leave won and the government needs to get a grip and deliver what the majority voted forI still think the EEA will be most likely but now more than ever I think there is a real chance the UK will stay in the EU.
Blame Rees-Mogg and co. They're the ones who've stopped us leaving.We Won't stay in the EU, leave won and the government needs to get a grip and deliver what the majority voted for
Apparently?
Show me where I am wrong then. A few of you are even contradicting what you have said in the past to try and make me look wrong. But still waiting for someone to show me.
So go on then. How will it be easy to get a free trade agreement with the EU without keeping in the single market? Or if we stay in the single market show where there is a probability of us not keeping FOM.
This is how silly a few of you have got again. You spend a couple of years saying how hard it would be then make out it would be easy when I say so.
Blame Rees-Mogg and co. They're the ones who've stopped us leaving.
You are so funny at times.
Earlier you said that I twisted your words when I quoted your exact words. But what you have always done is twisted what I have said about why people voted leave as my own thoughts. Or when I have mentioned infrastructure problems you made it out that I wanted out of the EU for these reasons.
Yes we are better off in the EU. I have said this countless times before. But it isn't all good as you try to make it out to be.
Presumably you’re talking about the Mexico trade deal which was renegotiated last year?
Nope
Out of interest which specific one are you talking about? I remember it being announced last year that Mexico’s trade deal with the EU had been negotiated to include agriculture so for all intents and purposes was a complete FTA without freedom of movement.
Germany's economy: Should we be worried?
Has the Kiel pub trade started to feel the effects ?
Germany's economy: Should we be worried?
Has the Kiel pub trade started to feel the effects ?
South Korea
So price wise, what does a pint of UK beer cost in your place compared to say a pint of German lager type beer ?The problems here for me are: climate change, record heat reduced crops of barley = beer price increases. Full employment = lack of staff and higher wages. Minimum wage = higher wages( but excuse for sales price increase) High rents = staff need more money to live. Customers have less spending power. Brexit = Stock piling. Had to order UK beer and cider for the summer to make sure there are no complications when/ UK leaves. Impacts Cashflow and takes storage space.
German companies are optimistic to get through this quickly according to polls.
So from a few weeks ago where you thought May deal or no deal you are starting to see it the same way as me. But it seems to be for different reasonsI still think the EEA will be most likely but now more than ever I think there is a real chance the UK will stay in the EU.
So you always tell Grendel he is wrong but now you say he is suddenly right.Even Grendull has told you that you’re wrong and you still won’t accept it. I’ve given you examples of crown dependencies and you still won’t accept you’re wrong. I’ve given you a link to the list on Wiki and you still won’t accept you’re wrong. Someone has mentioned Canada specifically and you still won’t accept you’re wrong. Grendull has mentioned that at least one country on the list has a full free trade agreement and I assume he means Mexico which renegotiated the existing free trade agreement to include agriculture but you still won’t accept that you’re wrong.
You either don’t understand your own point (possible) or you’re just too stubborn to admit that you got it wrong (also possible).
How about stopping your bullshitting and show where I have said it is impossible. Otherwise I will ignore you again. But this time I won't reply ever again. You are acting like a child again.I’m not saying anything. You’re saying it isn’t possible. It clearly is and you don’t have to look for very long to find that out.
So price wise, what does a pint of UK beer cost in your place compared to say a pint of German lager type beer ?
I pay £ 4.50 now for my Erdinger.
How about stopping your bullshitting and show where I have said it is impossible. Otherwise I will ignore you again. But this time I won't reply ever again. You are acting like a child again.
So from a few weeks ago where you thought May deal or no deal you are starting to see it the same way as me. But it seems to be for different reasons
So you always tell Grendel he is wrong but now you say he is suddenly right.
Shows how desperate you are to try and prove me wrong when I am not.
Haha I’m sure he’ll realise when reading it backTBF, stomping your feet, crying and saying you’re not playing any more sounds more childish.
How about stopping your bullshitting and show where I have said it is impossible. Otherwise I will ignore you again. But this time I won't reply ever again. You are acting like a child again.
Childish?TBF, stomping your feet, crying and saying you’re not playing any more sounds more childish.
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