Grendel
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Can you show me where we have lost “billions of business”
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Can you show me where we have lost “billions of business”
Astute
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So you have changed your wording now. You alleged i said only hard core Labour voters. But you now agree that I said not much more presently. And you also admitted that Labour has less than the last GE.
Then you quoted 40% and polls.
Yes you did.
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Astute
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Lost billions of business whilst having record employment. Makes sense
There is some mighty exaggeration going on here Mart.........I expect you think 11cm is close to 9" 's as well !!
Where is the exaggeration?
We have lost business. We have spent billions on preparations for a no deal. We have wasted 3 years on Brexit. Companies throughout Britain have been stockpiling and renting storage. Cold storage is sold out. Don’t you keep up with what’s going on?
Lost billions of business whilst having record employment. Makes sense
Yes. It does. Record employment when you count zero hours jobs and part time jobs.
Lost billions of business whilst having record employment. Makes sense
Yes. The quality of the jobs plays a role. Atypical employment: so called self employed and zero hours contracts accounts for a lot of the increased employment. Reduces the price of labour.
Setting the record straight: How record employment has changed the UK - Resolution Foundation
SIR ERNIE
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lol mart immediately starts scouring The Guardian.
The Guardian is reporting on a study. Is the study wrong, or do you know of a study saying that we are doing better than we would have been?
Ok. Read it here. You won’t find it on Breitbart or The Daily Farage.
How the economic cost of Brexit is being hidden from Leave voters
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RegTheDonk
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Who exactly has spent billions? Perhaps those billions have been spent on cold storage and warehouses. Brexit - good for UK business (warehouses and fridge manufacturers).
Good for some. But not for others who have extra costs and problems with cash flow. If they survived these extra costs, then they won’t be pleased at having to go through it all again at some later date. Making goods more expensive and stretching finances is hardly the best spin for Brexit. I thought things were supposed to get cheaper and business was supposed to benefit from Brexit? Still twisting negative effects into positive is all that’s left when there is no good news on the horizon.
Yes, that could be a silver lining for consumers, but will reduce profits and therefore tax revenue from some businesses.
The effect Brexit stockpiling is having on the economy
Short term. Now they have to sell the stock to reduce their borrowing.. until the next time..
Grendel
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Nope you said business have lost billions as - you then listed these separately
Back it up you lying bullshitter
skybluetony176
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Sick Boy
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They should focus on what’s being ignored by the government domestically and the money wasted on the Brexit shambles so far
I linked twice to reports on the cost of Brexit. GDP has fallen and business investment has fallen in comparison to the trend before Brexit. This means that we are losing billions compared to what we would have had, and our tax revenue is falling in comparison to what it would have been. If business is not losing billions of potential revenue, how come the report showed that it is? They have made graphs to show their workings. The figures are there. Now you show us gown the trend of business investment and GDP has improved since Brexit.
Another „bullshitter“:
At the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders chief executive Mike Hawes said it was "utterly unacceptable" that, more than two years since negotiations started, industry still did not know what the UK's relationship with the EU was going to be.
Uncertainty had already caused serious damage, he said, with car plants on enforced shutdown, investment being cut and jobs being lost.
I actually said „billions of business“ not they „have lost billions“, they can still lose business, but make the same turnover. The difference is the business they would have had, but didn’t get because of Brexit. This has been calculated.
Grendel
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It doesn’t show that at all. Several economies in Europe have performed far worse than the uk since the brexit announcement - notably Germany and Italy is now a basket case. So yeah you made it up
Grendel
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No it has not it’s remain lies from the Nazi spokesperson on SBT
I obviously didn’t make anything up. Read what the people who made the comparison say. Nothing to do with me, but I base my opinion on such evidence based reports as opposed to „there are no down sides“ Brexiteer promises.
Not all economies are performing like Germany.
Bad mood today? Brexit turning into a disaster as I have predicted from the start. Sore leavers. Lied to, but will deny anything to not have to admit they were lied to.
Italy is a basket case since Brexit?
Mucca Mad Boys
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I didn't quote an opinion poll, use of 42.4% for the Tories and 40% for Labour is the 2017 General Election result, which again is not an opinion poll. There's not really much you can argue with here.
I may as well quote polls since you insist I have, and the polls show a drop in support for Lab/Con and have them pretty even. So your argument that Labour has little/no support outside of its hardcore support is not backed up by anything. Not by current opinion polls nor, more importantly, the last GE election.
