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Astute

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We’re striking so education can get the proper funding it deserves. I for one think children deserve better than to be taught in classes of 35 in rooms built for 30. Do you?
I fully agree with you....then you admit your payrise was 100% over 5 years in the years of low inflation and you want us to back you up for a lot more when the man on the street gets much less. You knew what you would earn but a 100% raise was simply not enough after taking the position.

So please tell me why 100% payrise wasn't good enough in 5 years of low inflation years and what do you think would be acceptable now.
 

Astute

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Let's be honest, teachers, people that work in healthcare, the emergency services etc - they don't get paid enough. They're core elements that keep a country ticking. It's a wider problem.
I agree. But what would they be happy with after a 100% payrise after just 5 years.
 

wingy

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I fully agree with you....then you admit your payrise was 100% over 5 years in the years of low inflation and you want us to back you up for a lot more when the man on the street gets much less. You knew what you would earn but a 100% raise was simply not enough after taking the position.

So please tell me why 100% payrise wasn't good enough in 5 years of low inflation years and what do you think would be acceptable now.
According to figures today salaries are increasing at 7.7%
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I fully agree with you....then you admit your payrise was 100% over 5 years in the years of low inflation and you want us to back you up for a lot more when the man on the street gets much less. You knew what you would earn but a 100% raise was simply not enough after taking the position.

So please tell me why 100% payrise wasn't good enough in 5 years of low inflation years and what do you think would be acceptable now.

I got a 100% rise after having been promoted quickly and taken on additional responsibilities. The profession as a whole has seen a real terms pay drop in the region of 20% since 2010.

As it is I am still actively trying to leave because the conditions even with the money aren’t worth it. Wife in a similar position.
 

Ian1779

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I agree. But what would they be happy with after a 100% payrise after just 5 years.
It’s not a pay rise is it though really? Merely a recognition of experience and then additional responsibility that he has to work for.
Current UPS3 is £43K and would take a new teacher a minimum of 11 years to reach it assuming no additional TLR responsibility.
 

Astute

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I got a 100% rise after having been promoted quickly and taken on additional responsibilities. The profession as a whole has seen a real terms pay drop in the region of 20% since 2010.

As it is I am still actively trying to leave because the conditions even with the money aren’t worth it. Wife in a similar position.
So a 100% payrise over 5 years isn't good enough as over the last 10 years of low inflation it is 20% a year but still below below the last 13 years?
 

Astute

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It’s not a pay rise is it though really? Merely a recognition of experience and then additional responsibility that he has to work for.
Current UPS3 is £43K and would take a new teacher a minimum of 11 years to reach it assuming no additional TLR responsibility.
Is it really though?

You take on a job. You know the payrate. Yet even though you get a payrise of 100% after just 5 years it just isn't good enough.


Yes the pay rate should be more. But I'm sorry as a 100% payrise in just 5 years isn't good enough for some. How about having
a massive tax increase for those of us that hardly get a pay Increase so those who got 100% in the last 5 years of low inflation and we need to come out in sympathy with them.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Is it really though?

You take on a job. You know the payrate. Yet even though you get a payrise of 100% after just 5 years it just isn't good enough.


Yes the pay rate should be more. But I'm sorry as a 100% payrise in just 5 years isn't good enough for some. How about having
a massive tax increase for those of us that hardly get a pay Increase so those who got 100% in the last 5 years of low inflation and we need to come out in sympathy with them.

Sorry mate, but it looks like you are exercising some crab bucket syndrome here.
 
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I fully agree with you....then you admit your payrise was 100% over 5 years in the years of low inflation and you want us to back you up for a lot more when the man on the street gets much less. You knew what you would earn but a 100% raise was simply not enough after taking the position.

So please tell me why 100% payrise wasn't good enough in 5 years of low inflation years and what do you think would be acceptable now.
It's not about other people's salary though, it's about whether the pay rises (and his pay rises would be because of incremental progression in post and / or promotion rather than a fair pay deal) are fair and inline with what should be offered.
 

Astute

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It's not about other people's salary though, it's about whether the pay rises (and his pay rises would be because of incremental progression in post and / or promotion rather than a fair pay deal) are fair and inline with what should be offered.
And as I have always said everyone should do what is best for them. But 100% payrise after just 5 years in times of low inflation and complaining that the payrise wasn't enough is a bit too much.

I paid over 40k in income tax last year. Just like I usually do. And some expect me to pay more so they can have more than a 100% payrise after just 5 Years. Never mind. Just 4 more weeks of paying for the entititled.
 
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But 100% payrise after just 5 years in times of low inflation and complaining that the payrise wasn't enough is a bit too much.
The payrise can not be enough. It isn't a pay rise he's had, more a rise in pay.

And he's not striking just for him, is he?
 

Astute

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Then poor yourself a glass and chill the fuck out 😊
I'm chilled. Just had enough of those who are not happy with a 100% raise in 5 years but say they are not paid enough and don't care where all this money is coming from.

You accept a job. Then moan like fuck your wages have only gone up by 100% in 5 years.

How much has yours gone up in the last 5 years?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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I'm chilled. Just had enough of those who are not happy with a 100% raise in 5 years but say they are not paid enough and don't care where all this money is coming from.

You accept a job. Then moan like fuck your wages have only gone up by 100% in 5 years.

How much has yours gone up in the last 5 years?

I doubled my salary overnight.

That wasn't through any special move. I lost my job, my relationship broke down, I went travelling. I basically had nothing left.

When I came back and tried to get myself back to some kind of normal, I applied for a series of jobs. The one I got ended up being twice the salary of the one I was let go from. I genuinely couldn't believe it. I got the keys to the city of my dreams in the process.

Some poor soul has got it way worse. For what? Luck? A balance of bad karma, perhaps. I've got no doubt you've worked really hard, and you seem like a great lad, but let's not hit on others for wanting to do better.
 

Sick Boy

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Again though, there's a difference between Journalism and Content Creation surely?
A lot of them just call themselves SEO Content Creators now and just pinch other people’s content and then come higher because they’re writing for a tabloid.
 

Ian1779

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Is it really though?

You take on a job. You know the payrate. Yet even though you get a payrise of 100% after just 5 years it just isn't good enough.


Yes the pay rate should be more. But I'm sorry as a 100% payrise in just 5 years isn't good enough for some. How about having
a massive tax increase for those of us that hardly get a pay Increase so those who got 100% in the last 5 years of low inflation and we need to come out in sympathy with them.

You’re trying to somehow conflate the pay progression and rates of pay in teaching with a pretty free scope that you would find in the private sector.
Bosses in the private sector could simply pay you more - they just choose not to. Teaching doesn’t have that flexibility (although you may occasionally find a desperate school willing to chuck in a R&R lump sum)
 

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