What do we still need? (2 Viewers)

ClarkeZ

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I would start Eccles and Saka too and if Wright doesn't get some game time under his belt think EMC gets the nod.

Still short in cover CF and although I like Bidwell that position is definitely lacking in top class player, and still think CM could be improved
I agree a backup ST is important. If Haji is on the left and Simms needs a rest, someone adding goals there could be the difference.

I actually think we have reasonable depth in the middle, but as much as I like Palmer a CAM with more goal involvement backing up rudoni/alongside would be a boost.

Losing MvE for much time would also hurt.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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We haven’t got £11 mil to splash.We haven’t got £6 mil. We are trying to build a sustainable business.
You say Doug King is a multi millionaire businessman, and should have money to put in because he owns the club. How do you know what he has got?
The club is being run with a view to still being in business in 5 years.
As fans we have got to learn to be patient, it’s working we are improving each year.

There’s literally a couple of pages on this thread on exactly these points, I cba to repeat it all over again but it’s there if you want it. Somewhere either in this thread (or another one, I can’t remember now) I said none of us know how much cash Doug does/doesn’t have, so it’s impossible to know either way, it’s just speculation, nothing is that deep with regards to this thread.
 

mmttww

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I cba to repeat it all over again...

Arnie doesn't believe you; neither do I.

Arnold Schwarzenegger Smile GIF
 

Monty

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Ultimately the club will be trying to work out whether it is still trying to raise the ceiling or raise the floor, basically improve the first team, or improve the overall squad. If Ntelo does sign he certainly improves the squad but not the starting 11, and I think generally we can say the front 3 is sorted for now. Goalkeeper I believe (hope) is now sorted. Midfield happy with Sheaf, Eccles and Rudoni, and think Allen will do a job where needed, but there are various posts ad threads on Palmer and Torp, which shows maybe we do need another midfielder. Defence is also a concern, as someone has mentioned a suspension and an injury and we are starting to struggle, I think we do need another CD to strengthen which allows lati to offer some flexibility from the bench, and I would also argue Burroughs could be important this season as he can cover both full back positions. Generally I think we are trying to improve the squad at the moment, although a top signing CD or CM would improve the starting 11 and by default improve the squad.
Also mindful that if Ntelo signs we then only have room for 2 more over 21 players in our 25 man squad (presuming Wilson and Collins are both part of that squad).
Nice to have the headache of potentially having too many players to fit into the 25 man squad for once isn't it.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
 

rexo87

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
I’m shocked
 

Ccfcisparks

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
colour me shocked. all you do is read goals scored off wikipedia anyway and make a judgement.
 

Perennial Lurker

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
You really are just a bag of air aren't you?
Just here to troll and annoy
 

Tommo1993

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Complete waste of time rating them either way before you’ve seen them play a game.

I’d ban both Wikipedia and YouTube montages. 👍🏻
 

TomRad85

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
Because we aren't Birmingham City, who's fans sit around with their cocks out wanking over a recruitment team that got them relegated. We have a proven track record of bringing in good players and making them into even better players, the team have earned the trust of the fans. Just learn to enjoy it a bit.
 
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skybluecam

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
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only 58 rated, poor signing imo
 

Skyblue Bangkok

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If we are forced into the free market

Because we aren't Birmingham City, who's fans sit around with their cocks out wanking over a recruitment team that got them relegated. We have a proven track record of bringing in good players and making them into even better players, the team have earned the trust of the fans. Just learn to enjoy it a bit.
Nicely put.
 

SleepyGinger

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
We’ve got two strikers who scored 19 goals last season. Who did you really expect to come in? Another 20 goal a season striker?
 

Chris1987

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Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
Is this because he really isn't costing enough for your liking ?
 
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JSL

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Obviously the training staff and MR can see something in him to work with and improve / increase value. Let them do their job. Its unlikely he will go straight into the first team, but when needed he will have been accessed and given the time and attention needed to make into what's needed
 

BlueSkiesForever

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colour me shocked. all you do is read goals scored off wikipedia anyway and make a judgement.
You really are just a bag of air aren't you?
Just here to troll and annoy
only 58 rated, poor signing imo
We’ve got two strikers who scored 19 goals last season. Who did you really expect to come in? Another 20 goal a season striker?

Welcome to day 538 in the SBT house, where the same handful people moan at you on a daily basis, it’s literally Groundhog Day at this stage 😂

Firstly, you’re all just proving my point that the first ST that we’re linked with (not even any concrete evidence we’re getting him) you’ll all saying he’s exactly what we want and the best thing since sliced bread. Like there’s no other options at all? Are we not allowed to have an opinion other than “we’re linked with him therefore he must be good”?

Find it really odd that we have to seem to be positive about any potential signing we make. Where’s all your sense of questioning and thought? I realise I’ve not been overwhelmed by many players linked with us so far (I think Dovin and Rudoni are decent for the record) but jeez at least I’m questioning things rather than calling random strangers names and providing zero evidence for why they’re good.

Which leads me on to my second point, where’s the proof he’s actually any good? About a 30% strike rate for a team that finished 5th in the Bulgarian league last season, hardly a quality league and his highlight reel could be a reel for any striker in almost any league, there’s nothing outstanding in it at all.

Thirdly, say what you want about fifa, are we genuinely at the stage where we’re applauding the signing of a 58 rated player? 😂 Ffs that’s awful if so, and someone’s trying to use that as an argument against me! 😂😂
 

Ccfcisparks

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Welcome to day 538 in the SBT house, where the same handful people moan at you on a daily basis, it’s literally Groundhog Day at this stage 😂

Firstly, you’re all just proving my point that the first ST that we’re linked with (not even any concrete evidence we’re getting him) you’ll all saying he’s exactly what we want and the best thing since sliced bread. Like there’s no other options at all? Are we not allowed to have an opinion other than “we’re linked with him therefore he must be good”?

Find it really odd that we have to seem to be positive about any potential signing we make. Where’s all your sense of questioning and thought? I realise I’ve not been overwhelmed by many players linked with us so far (I think Dovin and Rudoni are decent for the record) but jeez at least I’m questioning things rather than calling random strangers names and providing zero evidence for why they’re good.

Which leads me on to my second point, where’s the proof he’s actually any good? About a 30% strike rate for a team that finished 5th in the Bulgarian league last season, hardly a quality league and his highlight reel could be a reel for any striker in almost any league, there’s nothing outstanding in it at all.

Thirdly, say what you want about fifa, are we genuinely at the stage where we’re applauding the signing of a 58 rated player? 😂 Ffs that’s awful if so, and someone’s trying to use that as an argument against me! 😂😂
I literally said i wasn't overly keen on Ntelo. Despite this, I've looked at some of his highlights and tried to put myself in the managers shoes and understand what qualities he has that he can offer us.

Your thought process is: Wikipedia > Goal record bad > Fifa > Stats bad> moan
 

BlueSkiesForever

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Is this because he really isn't costing enough for your liking ?

No it’s because he looks bang average at best, he plays in a shit league for a team no one ever talks about, and from the (albeit limited) highlights reels of him he looks like a bog standard striker to me. Do you think he looks like a bit of quality then? I don’t mind at all if we use loanees or free agents but they’ve got to be decent. I’m not saying he is definitively shit, I’m saying from the limited stats and highlight reels I’m yet to be impressed.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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Welcome to day 538 in the SBT house, where the same handful people moan at you on a daily basis, it’s literally Groundhog Day at this stage 😂

Firstly, you’re all just proving my point that the first ST that we’re linked with (not even any concrete evidence we’re getting him) you’ll all saying he’s exactly what we want and the best thing since sliced bread. Like there’s no other options at all? Are we not allowed to have an opinion other than “we’re linked with him therefore he must be good”?

Find it really odd that we have to seem to be positive about any potential signing we make. Where’s all your sense of questioning and thought? I realise I’ve not been overwhelmed by many players linked with us so far (I think Dovin and Rudoni are decent for the record) but jeez at least I’m questioning things rather than calling random strangers names and providing zero evidence for why they’re good.

Which leads me on to my second point, where’s the proof he’s actually any good? About a 30% strike rate for a team that finished 5th in the Bulgarian league last season, hardly a quality league and his highlight reel could be a reel for any striker in almost any league, there’s nothing outstanding in it at all.

Thirdly, say what you want about fifa, are we genuinely at the stage where we’re applauding the signing of a 58 rated player? 😂 Ffs that’s awful if so, and someone’s trying to use that as an argument against me! 😂😂
What’s an acceptable FIFA rating for a new signing to have?
 

Monty

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FIFA ratings are far more accurate for teams in the top European leagues, in lower leagues where Ntelo is they are little more than a brief guesswork and then adjusted if player moves to a league where there is more coverage.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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I literally said i wasn't overly keen on Ntelo. Despite this, I've looked at some of his highlights and tried to put myself in the managers shoes and understand what qualities he has that he can offer us.

Your thought process is: Wikipedia > Goal record bad > Fifa > Stats bad> moan

Oh fair if you’re not keen on him then you’re welcome to join my club? 😉

Like I was just saying to Chris, I’m not saying he’s definitively shit, I’ll always say our scouts know more than me, that’s completely obvious, but from the limited highlight reels and stats I’ve briefly looked at he doesn’t have any outstanding qualities that I can see. I feel like we’re always moaning at each other and I genuinely have nothing against you Sparks but just remember we’re trying to break into the prem here not finish mid-table.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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What’s an acceptable FIFA rating for a new signing to have?

Before you say I play football manager etc I don’t, just now and again I like perusing the made-up stats fifa put out, even for our current team (I think Van Ewijk is our best player on fifa ratings btw).

I’m not going to put a “fifa value” on what we should be signing as it varies from position to position and what we want out of the particular (starting/back up etc), but if you’re going down that route then I’d say I hope we’re looking at players 61-65 and above (maybe?).
 

covcity4life

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Before you say I play football manager etc I don’t, just now and again I like perusing the made-up stats fifa put out, even for our current team (I think Van Ewijk is our best player on fifa ratings btw).

I’m not going to put a “fifa value” on what we should be signing as it varies from position to position and what we want out of the particular (starting/back up etc), but if you’re going down that route then I’d say I hope we’re looking at players 61-65 and above (maybe?).
Please stop
 

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