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I am asking you though, which chances were they? If you want to gloat and give it loads, back it up with more than BBC stats.
Robins missing the chance to substitute McNultyI am asking you though, which chances were they? If you want to gloat and give it loads, back it up with more than BBC stats.
That is my point. No anticipation frim the strikers we do have. Not running forwards so a pass could cut through their defence. No running at defenders to make them pull back and give more space to those on the ball. No anticipation on balls unexpectedly going into the box. No anticipation on their GK making a mistake. It will come with time. But we don't have time.Can either of you name all the good chances we had tonight bar the 2 Biamou headers?
That is my point. No anticipation frim the strikers we do have. Not running forwards so a pass could cut through their defence. No running at defenders to make them pull back and give more space to those on the ball. No anticipation on balls unexpectedly going into the box. No anticipation on their GK making a mistake. It will come with time. But we don't have time.
Wilson went from zero to hero. He had a good teacher. He had a poacher with him that also made his own goals.
Yet we don't need one because we don't get the ball into dangerous areas? It isn't dangerous if nobody is in the right place. You would be moaning about balls going in and nobody there to do anything.
OK. We don't need a striker because we are shit.They are though? Even when Ponticelli came on he was making runs and losing his marker. McNulty in the first half was making runs into gaps also but nothing.
OK. We don't need a striker because we are shit.
There you go.
Debate won.
Gendel hasn't got a point to make so turns to abuse.
Classic, seen time and time before.
Thank you and good night.
Close the thread.
You still aren't getting what I am saying. If we had a formation or a midfielder who would unlock defences it would make a world of difference.
People were calling for Ponticelli, he made no difference tonight because our system was still the same. He is a player who thrives on being put through and finishing goals, a bit of an Armstrong. There is none of that going on at all.
Almost every time that McNulty and Biamou receive a pass in a forward position they lose the ball and/or the chance to get a shot off.
McNulty is woefully weak - a small shoulder charge and he loses the ball. He also looks unfit.
Biamou is just not good enough. People on here were saying that Biamou's main strength is his heading. Well fuck me, today's performance laid that myth to rest. Two woeful headers from very good opportunities. He also had a shot on the edge of the 6 yard box that he managed to hit off target. He's complete gash. Definitely not L2 standard.
I get what you mean. But you are saying that we don't need a striker that can score goals to make your point.You still aren't getting what I am saying. If we had a formation or a midfielder who would unlock defences it would make a world of difference.
People were calling for Ponticelli, he made no difference tonight because our system was still the same. He is a player who thrives on being put through and finishing goals, a bit of an Armstrong. There is none of that going on at all.
Set up 2 good chances and had good chances himself yet it is a waste of time having an experienced striker that can score goals because we don't get any chances?Didn't Biamou set up 2 good chances in the first half? Yep, should have done much better with his headers though.
He also gave the ball away less than Nazon and had a better first touch, but because Nazon tried to shoot from anywhere and everywhere it will be OK.
As I said, list them for meSet up 2 good chances and had good chances himself yet it is a waste of time having an experienced striker that can score goals because we don't get any chances?
Didn't Biamou set up 2 good chances in the first half? Yep, should have done much better with his headers though.
He also gave the ball away less than Nazon and had a better first touch, but because Nazon tried to shoot from anywhere and everywhere it will be OK.
That's fair enough, yet others as you have will have rated Jones and duck highly that wasted a lot more.Virtually everyone on the Biamou thread agrees he is not good enough. You are entitled to your opinion but it's pretty obvious to most people that you are wrong.
I am asking you though, which chances were they? If you want to gloat and give it loads, back it up with more than BBC stats.
Jesus wept
If I could type the equivalent of talking slowly! Last time.....
It doesn't matter how many clear cut chances there are the right striker in this team will create chances and will make the right movement. This will also encourage other to pick him out.
Got more likes than you on here to be fair. How many games have you actually watched?
And I have already given you examples of last night when the right movements were being made.
There would be more runs more movement, better movement and as I stated so many times when 'giving it loads'.
If Jones and Duck have scored less goals (from distance) than you as you are the main striker and you are doing the business. They would not get away with so many shots from distance.
You still aren't explaining though, I am telling you that there was movement and runs. Ponticelli did nothing but run, dart and move into space but both Duck and Jones still tried to shoot.
You are just typing lots and using cliches without expanding on it. Why do you keep saying "they would not get away with it"?
Not sure how much clearer I can be in my explanation.
If Ponti scored yesterday in the box from a run.
If he does the same again at the next match.
I guarantee you the next time Ponti makes a run and jones shoots instead. Ponti will slaughter him. Mark Robins will slaughter him.
Then the next time Ponti makes a similar run Jones will think twice.
I am a bit gob smacked you don't get what I am saying abd that I have to try and explain it in this detail for you to not suggest it is a cliche. Even all the other times I have explained this it wasn't a cliche either. It's just common sense.
As soon as the highlights are uploaded, I will gif you at least 3 chances from yesterday where McNulty runs into space and is ignored by either Jones on Nazon who have hopeful strikes. One of which McNulty goes fucking nuts at Nazon but later on he ignores him again just the same. It's no surprise he just gives up. McNulty and Ponticelli need clever players around them, or at least ones who can think - Jones and Nazon are pigeon brained.Not sure how much clearer I can be in my explanation.
If Ponti scored yesterday in the box from a run.
If he does the same again at the next match.
I guarantee you the next time Ponti makes a run and jones shoots instead. Ponti will slaughter him. Mark Robins will slaughter him.
Then the next time Ponti makes a similar run Jones will think twice.
I am a bit gob smacked you don't get what I am saying abd that I have to try and explain it in this detail for you to not suggest it is a cliche. Even all the other times I have explained this it wasn't a cliche either. It's just common sense.
As soon as the highlights are uploaded, I will gif you at least 3 chances from yesterday where McNulty runs into space and is ignored by either Jones on Nazon who have hopeful strikes. One of which McNulty goes fucking nuts at Nazon but later on he ignores him again just the same. It's no surprise he just gives up. McNulty and Ponticelli need clever players around them, or at least ones who can think - Jones and Nazon are pigeon brained.
You're just making something up.
As soon as the highlights are uploaded, I will gif you at least 3 chances from yesterday where McNulty runs into space and is ignored by either Jones on Nazon who have hopeful strikes. One of which McNulty goes fucking nuts at Nazon but later on he ignores him again just the same. It's no surprise he just gives up. McNulty and Ponticelli need clever players around them, or at least ones who can think - Jones and Nazon are pigeon brained.
You're just making something up.
I know that is happening. What I am saying is if McNulty had scored more times than either of them have from taking shots.
They would not make that poor decision to shoot.
So far shooting has paid more dividends than setting up McNulty or any striker.
That bad decision making needs to stop.
Robins needs to sort it.
However you have a striker bang in form they would be more focused on feeding him as that is where our goals would be coming from.
Unfortunately our only goals are coming from their shots
Because you keep going on about things but you don't actually seem to have a clue what is happening in games..
You keep trying your best to justify Jones having awful shots instead of passing it because he "can get away with it".
You go on about runs being made, even though yesterday multiple times runs were made but ignored.
You just completely ignore references to things that have happened during the match.
Jones has scored 1 long ranger. He has had more shots than any other player in the squad this season - 47 only hitting the target 18 times.
He had 5 shots and scored 3 in the first game of the season (all goals from inside the area)
Since then he has had 42 shots in the last 13 games hitting the target only 15 times and scoring just 1 goal from distance but under zero pressure.
Not hanging him out to dry but he's hardly that prolific that he should shoot every time ignoring all of the strikers in better positions.
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I'm not skating around anything, I am giving you real life examples from our games. I am asking you to do the same but you just keep typing lots of words without really saying anything.
There is nothing thick about it, reply to me with references within the games like I have with you instead of skirting around the issue and just repeating yourself over and over.
You are justifying somebody taking a pot shot from distance or a silly angle rather than laying a player clean through where they are in a better position, but you are lost when I start talking about instances during our games.
Whatever rocks your boat :wideyed:Not at our level but to make the point Fabregas has a fantastic shit from distance.
Git I just changed that!!! You got in one second too quick!!!! (I can see another rock your boat comment coming here)Whatever rocks your boat :wideyed:
So you want me to give you a real life example about something that can't happen because we haven't got the striker for it to happen?
Marvellous.
Tell you what if Robins signs a decent striker in January and the Duck and Jones pass to him in the box more times than they shoot.
Or if Ponti gets a chance and happens to start scoring. When the above then happens with Ponti I will give you those examples.
Ponti by the way has made by far the most intelligent runs of any of our strikers. Without a doubt
Until then unfortunately my ability to go back in time and tell Robins not to sign McNulty so I can change history has escaped me today.
He isn't scoring tap ins and unfortunately he has scored more than those making runs in the boxes. So he fancies himself shooting over them.
Which would not happen as much if there was an out and out goalscorer doing the business there.
Ponti might be that player we will have to wait and see.