Sick Boy
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EU citizens? Would be interested in seeing that link.
The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (12 Viewers)
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EU citizens? Would be interested in seeing that link.
Astute
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So you are saying we don't have millions of homeless and the NHS can cope?
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
It's strange how 5% of the English population are able to bring down the country!
Astute
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Have put it up before. But as usual when I did you went quiet for your normal 12 hours or more then came out with more points you have came out with countless times.
clint van damme
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Sir Ernie!!
With regard to the NHS, the bill for treating an EU citizen should recharged to that persons own national health authority. We have not been reclaiming the majority what we are owed, that is a failure of Government. Anyone think they wanted the NHS to fail to they can privatise it!!
Astute
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Explain
Grendel
Well-Known Member
EU law states that you have the right to move to another country for 3 months, after that you have to have a job to legally stay. If there are people not working, the government could have already told them to leave. It works in other EU countries.
Let's just hope that there is still water when we turn the taps on post-Brexit
That's not true either.
Sick Boy
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I may have missed it. Would appreciate seeing it again, especially if it is the case that these are EU and not rest of the world migrants.
D
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lol
Astute
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Absolute bollocks as usual. But at least you get your normal pat on the back.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Yes it is
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Hahaha, yea right!
Astute
Well-Known Member
Exactly. You have no answer for what is a massive problem. So LOL is the best you can come out with.
Grendel
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It's strange how some think 5% can bring down the entire NHS
Sick Boy
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It most likely would do as it is underfunded and understaffed. Much like the UK in general.
D
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Still, it's encouraging that so many people want to fund training for British doctors and nurses, no?It most likely would do as it is underfunded and understaffed. Much like the UK in general.
At least that'll mean come the next election, we'll get a party elected who pledges to do just that...
You keep chuntering on about net contribution but are only referring to actual tax receipts against benefit costs...........conveniently as usual you don't cost in any other strains and costs on the NHS, Social services, transport, education or any other part of the infrastructure. That net contribution is completely torn to shreds when these other considerations are accounted for. Not to mention, pollution, environmental, destruction of green field sites and housing demand issues.
Grendel
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No it isn't - there is a rule but the individual has rights of residence and the law states only in exceptional circumstances would deportation be permitted
Now tell me this. If someone comes as employed and leaves after 1 week that employment what is the eu law then?
SIR ERNIE
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Well actually all I said was that I suspect Farage might return to stir up things again, and in your usual style you see that as me praising him.
But as you've raised the subject, yes give me Nigel Farage any day over your idols Corbyn, McDonnell, Thornberry and Abbott.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Workers - residence rights
In order to get healthcare and to open a bank account in Italy, I had to prove I was working with a employment contract. As I stated before (but got accused of telling lies) I was visited by the local police at 7.30am one Sunday to check my documents. Sadly I also lost had a period of unemployment before this after an initial job offer turned out to be not what I thought and I would have been entitled to nothing and not able to seek help from the state.
You would be forcefully deported but would be required to leave. Sadly don't come from a privilidged background so was living hand to mouth until I found secure employment.
clint van damme
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I have never idolised any politician, the fact they're politicians is reason enough for that.
Grendel
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I repeat the rules of residency then apply - show me the stats on actual deportation of EU residents. They do not exist. What also does not exist is the ability to remove an individual who has worked in a European country and then leaves employment.
Section 28 clearly states that.
You certainly do not as an eu resident have to prove you are working to obtain healthcare. Where does that even come from? Are you seriously trying to claim that the European Heath agreement only applies to working nationals? You should complain it's an infringement of your rights.
Banks have nothing to do with EU law that's their right and policy.
'The number of pensioners has increased by a third in the last 30 years and he said the system had not been able to deal with the increase in the number of elderly people in particular.'
This is going to continue. It is the same in Germany. It is nothing to do with the EU. We are living longer. Luckily there are younger people from abroad working in the NHS or the situation would be even worse. But, ignore the lack of investment and forward planning and blame Mad Merkel, drunken Juncker and the EU in general. Let's see what happens when the Brexodus gets in full swing after we have crashed out of the EU.
There is a chance. Just depends how badly this pans out. What starts off as racism against a smaller group of Eastern European unskilled workers can rapidly expand. National Action have been outstandingly open that they believe in the original manifesto of the NSDAP. There were people who believed in this before - also in Coventry in the 70s - but they were underground and being surveilled by special branch. They were training for the revolution which they thought would be a left wing revolution and they were to be the underground resistance.
Today, the right is being propagated by MSM ( e.g. mail, Telegraph, Sun ) and there is even a Farage programm spewing out distorted and sometimes totally inaccurate "facts". The revolution these people ( right wing "combat" groups, are training for is a right wing revolution when "we" claim "our" country back.
This is very disconcerting and has arisen because of the raging Brexit debate which has emboldened this scum on the far right.
Theleave propaganda revolts me, but is gladly taken on board by many people.
Except none of that dramatic tosh will occur and once the greedy cretins in Brussels have milked us for an extortionate sum, all will be settled by big business in the interests of big business !
They are so minimal in number it's laughable and their extreme rubbish does not meet many ears in truth. Most people are not blatant racists ( I hate that stupid over used term ) , they just see the common sense factors affecting daily lives, crimes, NHS meltdown, traffic and transport meltdowns and extremism and murder from mainly Muslim lunatics.
Are you suggesting that the greedy cretins are in Brussels? I think you should look closer to home. The Brexodus will come and had already started in smaller numbers. Net immigration is falling and banks are looking for alternative sites in the EU as a precaution.
Most people are not blatant racists, but the debate has been used by racists and has emboldened racists. The common sense factors ( hate that when people bring the so-called "common sense" into it as it ususally is not common sense ) affecting daily lives which you quote, are not all the fault of nasty foreigners or the EU. I don't know the statistic on murder by Muslims against murder by "others" in the UK. Maybe you do?
Grendel
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Lies
You twist almost anything anyone writes, you really should be in politics yourself !
Yes, maybe. Could you answer why was Nigel Farage at this rally for Roy Moor? - "Judge Roy Moore Speech at his Senate Race Rally will leave you speechless". This bigot was supported by Bannon and apparently Farage. Sick fxxkers. Farage is being seen at all the wrong places - AfD, Roy Moor Rally. Whatb is going on? It is more than just Brexit.
Kingokings204
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Paranoid nonsense. I watched that speech farage gave. It was just explaining why brexit and trump won. It wasn't a racist speech.
No it wasn't racist. Roy Moor is a racist though. Anyway the whole thing is "god, family and country" according to Gorka. Moor is a bigot. Did you listen to him, Gorka und Bannon? They are not messing around. Farage was the least right wing amongst them. You also had intellectual feather weights like Sarah Palin and Hannity backing Moor. I live away from the UK now, but these people are far to the right of what I knew in the UK. I cannot imagine the UK politicians that I knew in the past sharing a stage with these unsavoury people - and with the AfD leadership in Germany. It shows Farage for what he is - an opportunist with little moral courage. A hero for some in the UK though.
Kingokings204
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Can't comment on the others and their speeches tbf.
clint van damme
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11 of them have been arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit terrorist acts, them and the muslim lunatics you refer to are opposite cheeks of the same fanatical arse.