The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (23 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You hate any kind of British culture.
You don't believe we really have a British culture.
You don't mind what culture we do have getting erased.

This is exactly why 17 million people voted against you. Too bad you still don't get it.
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Ok, now we need to get the straight jacket.

I scoffed at the bit about intellect. I mean, what you are advocating for literally means the end for your people. I think you know that though.
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what people?
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I know you don't.

That's the point.
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I’ll tell you what. You name something traditionally British that contributes to this culture that you’re convinced you’re protecting and let’s go through the origins of it and the things that have influenced it or allowed it to become part of our culture. Anything you like. Your choice.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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skybluetony176 said:
I’ll tell you what. You name something traditionally British that contributes to this culture that you’re convinced you’re protecting and let’s go through the origins of it and the things that have influenced it or allowed it to become part of our culture. Anything you like. Your choice.
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Halal meat
Acid attacks
Stabbings
 
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martcov

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
No, you don't get it.

Sadly you never will.
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I get exactly what is going on. There are some populists playing on people's fears. Some of which are rational, and others not. The populists are leading people as the pied piper did with the rats of Hameln. You either fall for their propaganda and ignore the facts, or you are revolted by these populists. I am revolted by them. I compare them to populists of the past. You obviously fear foreigners and their cultures and follow the populists. You seem to be happy to throw a free, pluralistic and tolerant society out of the window to protect a British culture which you and the populists have created - one which blames muslims, the EU and EU migrants for the failures of successive governments. It is called throwing the baby out with the bath water. You really genuinely don't get it.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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NorthernWisdom said:
There does seem a defensiveness from racists that they aren't racist, and a fear of calling racists racist.

I suppose that makes all of us a little bit racist, really...
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Not really. Not everyone likes confrontation (not that I do, honest;) ) so will turn a blind eye to it or just let it go. On this matter I can’t turn a blind eye to it or let it go. But that’s just me. Certainly it would help if everyone one was like that and didn’t afford these new wave racist a hiding place but I wouldn’t accept that makes them racist too. First thing we’ve got to do collectively as a nation is recognise that this is racism in a different name, something that the government seems afraid to do as large numbers of these voted brexit and the government is scared shitless of upsetting brexit voters. Racist or not.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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martcov said:
I get exactly what is going on. There are some populists playing on people's fears. Some of which are rational, and others not. The populists are leading people as the pied piper did with the rats of Hameln. You either fall for their propaganda and ignore the facts, or you are revolted by these populists. I am revolted by them. I compare them to populists of the past. You obviously fear foreigners and their cultures and follow the populists. You seem to be happy to throw a free, pluralistic and tolerant society out of the window to protect a British culture which you and the populists have created - one which blames muslims, the EU and EU migrants for the failures of successive governments. It is called throwing the baby out with the bath water. You really genuinely don't get it.
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he's married to a foreigner, that's why I can't get what he's driving at unless it's just muslims.
But if you marry a foreigner then all this maintaining your identity stuff is bullshit so there must be more behind it.
 
NorthernWisdom

NorthernWisdom

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skybluetony176 said:
Not really. Not everyone likes confrontation (not that I do, honest;) ) so will turn a blind eye to it or just let it go. On this matter I can’t turn a blind eye to it or let it go. But that’s just me. Certainly it would help if everyone one was like that and didn’t afford these new wave racist a hiding place but I wouldn’t accept that makes them racist too. First thing we’ve got to do collectively as a nation is recognise that this is racism in a different name, something that the government seems afraid to do as large numbers of these voted brexit and the government is scared shitless of upsetting brexit voters. Racist or not.
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It's not about confrontation though. I get not intervening in a bar if a hardman's giving it large - I wouldn't!

But it's just acknowledging that brutal generalisations are racist... that'd be a start.

After all, not everybody in Rugby is a drug-addled dosser who can't string a sentence together... I think ;)
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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clint van damme said:
we never had stabbings before Muslims came!? Ridiculous.
Why are you bothered about halal meat?
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The irony is that until modern slaughter methods came about stringing an animal up and slitting it’s throat was the common method of slaughtering animals everywhere in the world. So maybe he’s pro halal, as it’s traditional and he wants to wind the clocks back.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Funnily enough I'm about 99% veggie now. The missus got me into it but I really feel a lot better. Morally and physically.

Still have the occasional pissed cheesburger though.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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skybluetony176 said:
The irony is that until modern slaughter methods came about stringing an animal up and slitting it’s throat was the common method of slaughtering animals everywhere in the world. So maybe he’s pro halal, as it’s traditional and he wants to wind the clocks back.
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So you agree these cultures are making us go backwards?

Make your mind up!
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
So you agree these cultures are making us go backwards?

Make your mind up!
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Making us go backwards? Have modern slaughter houses been forced to shut or change to halal methods? Must have missed that one. No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they? It’s easily avoidable.

Again, you’re the one who thinks voting leave can turn the clock back. Not me, I’m happy moving forward. Just pointing out that halal is a return to a traditional method of slaughter, something I’d thought would make you happy.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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skybluetony176 said:
Making us go backwards? Have modern slaughter houses been forced to shut or change to halal methods? Must have missed that one. No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they? It’s easily avoidable.

Again, you’re the one who thinks voting leave can turn the clock back. Not me, I’m happy moving forward. Just pointing out that halal is a return to a traditional method of slaughter, something I’d thought would make you happy.
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Amazing. You are so ignorant it is unbelievable. In fact, you are everything wrong with people these days.

What a c**t you are.
 
dancers lance

dancers lance

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Funnily enough I'm about 99% veggie now. The missus got me into it but I really feel a lot better. Morally and physically.

Still have the occasional pissed cheesburger though.
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I'm 99.9% veggie, I only eat wafer thin ham ;)
 
dancers lance

dancers lance

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skybluetony176 said:
Making us go backwards? Have modern slaughter houses been forced to shut or change to halal methods? Must have missed that one. No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they? It’s easily avoidable.

Again, you’re the one who thinks voting leave can turn the clock back. Not me, I’m happy moving forward. Just pointing out that halal is a return to a traditional method of slaughter, something I’d thought would make you happy.
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"No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they?" I think the near 3 million Muslims in this country might be? Yeah, you could say they choose to eat halal meat, but they only choose it because it is forced upon them by the religious doctrine they follow.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I knew you would be triggered by that picture of Merkel.

What is happening in Europe is not just appearing in Breitbart for fucks sake. They exaggerate things but anyone that has actually traveled properly or even has an ounce of commonsense and spacial awareness can see what is going on. The right wing is only rising because of ridiculous leftist policy that is ruining our continent. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it is the truth.

I'm married to a woman from another culture, so saying I'm scared of them is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. Unfortunately some cultures are better than others, and the EU is importing some pretty shit ones.
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Where are they importing these 'inferior' cultures from and for what reason? What was the excuse for bringing in these lesser people into Britain long before the EU was created?
 
dancers lance

dancers lance

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