The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (270 Viewers)

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

My people? Not even sure what that’s supposed to mean.

I know you don't.

That's the point.

 

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[clint van damme]

I know you don't.

That's the point.

are you hinting at maintaining some sort of racial purity? Because that's what it sounds like and from you of all people that's ludicrous.

 

[clint van damme]

You hate any kind of British culture.
You don't believe we really have a British culture.
You don't mind what culture we do have getting erased.

This is exactly why 17 million people voted against you. Too bad you still don't get it.

wh

Ok, now we need to get the straight jacket.

I scoffed at the bit about intellect. I mean, what you are advocating for literally means the end for your people. I think you know that though.

what people?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

People are in denial about it, usually those who display it but we should recognise it all the same.

There does seem a defensiveness from racists that they aren't racist, and a fear of calling racists racist.

I suppose that makes all of us a little bit racist, really...

 

[skybluetony176]

I know you don't.

That's the point.

I’ll tell you what. You name something traditionally British that contributes to this culture that you’re convinced you’re protecting and let’s go through the origins of it and the things that have influenced it or allowed it to become part of our culture. Anything you like. Your choice.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

are you hinting at maintaining some sort of racial purity? Because that's what it sounds like and from you of all people that's ludicrous.

Yes, I am hitler...

This just gets worse.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I’ll tell you what. You name something traditionally British that contributes to this culture that you’re convinced you’re protecting and let’s go through the origins of it and the things that have influenced it or allowed it to become part of our culture. Anything you like. Your choice.

Halal meat
Acid attacks
Stabbings

 

[clint van damme]

Yes, I am hitler...

This just gets worse.

so explain what you mean?

 

[martcov]

No, you don't get it.

Sadly you never will.

I get exactly what is going on. There are some populists playing on people's fears. Some of which are rational, and others not. The populists are leading people as the pied piper did with the rats of Hameln. You either fall for their propaganda and ignore the facts, or you are revolted by these populists. I am revolted by them. I compare them to populists of the past. You obviously fear foreigners and their cultures and follow the populists. You seem to be happy to throw a free, pluralistic and tolerant society out of the window to protect a British culture which you and the populists have created - one which blames muslims, the EU and EU migrants for the failures of successive governments. It is called throwing the baby out with the bath water. You really genuinely don't get it.

 

[skybluetony176]

There does seem a defensiveness from racists that they aren't racist, and a fear of calling racists racist.

I suppose that makes all of us a little bit racist, really...

Not really. Not everyone likes confrontation (not that I do, honest ) so will turn a blind eye to it or just let it go. On this matter I can’t turn a blind eye to it or let it go. But that’s just me. Certainly it would help if everyone one was like that and didn’t afford these new wave racist a hiding place but I wouldn’t accept that makes them racist too. First thing we’ve got to do collectively as a nation is recognise that this is racism in a different name, something that the government seems afraid to do as large numbers of these voted brexit and the government is scared shitless of upsetting brexit voters. Racist or not.

 

[clint van damme]

Halal meat
Acid attacks
Stabbings

we never had stabbings before Muslims came!? Ridiculous.
Why are you bothered about halal meat?

 

[clint van damme]

I get exactly what is going on. There are some populists playing on people's fears. Some of which are rational, and others not. The populists are leading people as the pied piper did with the rats of Hameln. You either fall for their propaganda and ignore the facts, or you are revolted by these populists. I am revolted by them. I compare them to populists of the past. You obviously fear foreigners and their cultures and follow the populists. You seem to be happy to throw a free, pluralistic and tolerant society out of the window to protect a British culture which you and the populists have created - one which blames muslims, the EU and EU migrants for the failures of successive governments. It is called throwing the baby out with the bath water. You really genuinely don't get it.

he's married to a foreigner, that's why I can't get what he's driving at unless it's just muslims.
But if you marry a foreigner then all this maintaining your identity stuff is bullshit so there must be more behind it.

 

[skybluetony176]

Halal meat
Acid attacks
Stabbings

You think all of those are the British culture that you’re protecting?

To quote OB1 you truly are lost.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not really. Not everyone likes confrontation (not that I do, honest ) so will turn a blind eye to it or just let it go. On this matter I can’t turn a blind eye to it or let it go. But that’s just me. Certainly it would help if everyone one was like that and didn’t afford these new wave racist a hiding place but I wouldn’t accept that makes them racist too. First thing we’ve got to do collectively as a nation is recognise that this is racism in a different name, something that the government seems afraid to do as large numbers of these voted brexit and the government is scared shitless of upsetting brexit voters. Racist or not.

It's not about confrontation though. I get not intervening in a bar if a hardman's giving it large - I wouldn't!

But it's just acknowledging that brutal generalisations are racist... that'd be a start.

After all, not everybody in Rugby is a drug-addled dosser who can't string a sentence together... I think

 

[Deleted member 5849]

he's married to a foreigner

He's married an Irish chap?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

we never had stabbings before Muslims came!? Ridiculous.
Why are you bothered about halal meat?

My post was a joke, Clint.

As for your second point it is barbaric, but I think the less said about that the better.

 

[skybluetony176]

we never had stabbings before Muslims came!? Ridiculous.
Why are you bothered about halal meat?

The irony is that until modern slaughter methods came about stringing an animal up and slitting it’s throat was the common method of slaughtering animals everywhere in the world. So maybe he’s pro halal, as it’s traditional and he wants to wind the clocks back.

 

[clint van damme]

My post was a joke, Clint.

As for your second point it is barbaric, but I think the less said about that the better.

I don't disagree, but the whole meat trade is barbaric, I still eat my fair share.

 

[skybluetony176]

My post was a joke, Clint.

As for your second point it is barbaric, but I think the less said about that the better.

You’re post was dodging the challenge. I think we all know why.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Funnily enough I'm about 99% veggie now. The missus got me into it but I really feel a lot better. Morally and physically.

Still have the occasional pissed cheesburger though.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You’re post was dodging the challenge. I think we all know why.

What challenge? This is not interrogate Earlsdon_Skyblue1.

You don't believe there is a real British culture. The debate cannot really go any further than that.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The irony is that until modern slaughter methods came about stringing an animal up and slitting it’s throat was the common method of slaughtering animals everywhere in the world. So maybe he’s pro halal, as it’s traditional and he wants to wind the clocks back.

So you agree these cultures are making us go backwards?

Make your mind up!

 

[skybluetony176]

So you agree these cultures are making us go backwards?

Make your mind up!

Making us go backwards? Have modern slaughter houses been forced to shut or change to halal methods? Must have missed that one. No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they? It’s easily avoidable.

Again, you’re the one who thinks voting leave can turn the clock back. Not me, I’m happy moving forward. Just pointing out that halal is a return to a traditional method of slaughter, something I’d thought would make you happy.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Making us go backwards? Have modern slaughter houses been forced to shut or change to halal methods? Must have missed that one. No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they? It’s easily avoidable.

Again, you’re the one who thinks voting leave can turn the clock back. Not me, I’m happy moving forward. Just pointing out that halal is a return to a traditional method of slaughter, something I’d thought would make you happy.

Amazing. You are so ignorant it is unbelievable. In fact, you are everything wrong with people these days.

What a c**t you are.

 

[skybluetony176]

Amazing. You are so ignorant it is unbelievable. In fact, you are everything wrong with people these days.

What a c**t you are.

Ha ha ha.

 

[dancers lance]

Funnily enough I'm about 99% veggie now. The missus got me into it but I really feel a lot better. Morally and physically.

Still have the occasional pissed cheesburger though.

I'm 99.9% veggie, I only eat wafer thin ham

 

[dancers lance]

Making us go backwards? Have modern slaughter houses been forced to shut or change to halal methods? Must have missed that one. No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they? It’s easily avoidable.

Again, you’re the one who thinks voting leave can turn the clock back. Not me, I’m happy moving forward. Just pointing out that halal is a return to a traditional method of slaughter, something I’d thought would make you happy.

"No one is being forced to eat halal meat are they?" I think the near 3 million Muslims in this country might be? Yeah, you could say they choose to eat halal meat, but they only choose it because it is forced upon them by the religious doctrine they follow.

 

[Sick Boy]

You can laugh now.

Your kids will be living in a shit hole.

Why won't you take my bet?

The bet that the UK will be under Sharia Law within 100 years?

With a bit of luck they'll grow up in the Italian Alps? How about yours?

 

[Sick Boy]

I knew you would be triggered by that picture of Merkel.

What is happening in Europe is not just appearing in Breitbart for fucks sake. They exaggerate things but anyone that has actually traveled properly or even has an ounce of commonsense and spacial awareness can see what is going on. The right wing is only rising because of ridiculous leftist policy that is ruining our continent. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it is the truth.

I'm married to a woman from another culture, so saying I'm scared of them is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. Unfortunately some cultures are better than others, and the EU is importing some pretty shit ones.

Where are they importing these 'inferior' cultures from and for what reason? What was the excuse for bringing in these lesser people into Britain long before the EU was created?

 

[clint van damme]

The bet that the UK will be under Sharia Law within 100 years?

With a bit of luck they'll grow up in the Italian Alps? How about yours?

mine are growing up across the road from Muslims, just like I did. And just like me they've never had an ounce of bother off of them.

 

[Sick Boy]

mine are growing up across the road from Muslims, just like I did. And just like me they've never had an ounce of bother off of them.

I once had a Muslim girlfriend and somehow managed to live to tell the tale

 

[dancers lance]

Even though my whole family warned me against throwing my life savings into writing a book, this thread has just confirmed to me that I did the right thing. So, Gent's, Ladies, non binary, 57 kin types and sketchy "identifiers" I bring you my first hard back ......."Post modern Neo Marxism and the deep fried Mars bar"

 

[martcov]

North East would lose 16% of GDP after 'no deal' Brexit, says leaked regional impact assessment

More „experts“ predicting gloom. May saying everything will be fine.

 

[dutchman]

I once had a Muslim girlfriend and somehow managed to live to tell the tale

It's funny how the good-looking ones adopt a western-lifestyle while the ugly ones adopt a middle-east lifestyle?

 

[dutchman]

North East would lose 16% of GDP after 'no deal' Brexit, says leaked regional impact assessment

More „experts“ predicting gloom. May saying everything will be fine.

Read it more carefully and you will see it forecasts a 16% reduction in 'growth' of GDP, not total GDP!