Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (201 Viewers)

[Brylowes]

As I mentioned to to Tony, I’d imagine they were talking about changing between coronavirus patients only and they’d be in separate units

They may well be changing between suspected Coronavirus patients ‘as many people
With all the symptoms aren’t tested.

 

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[clint van damme]

What the fuck are you on about?

My agenda is that both sides of the political spectrum are are each others throats about any bit of dust they can kick up. Relevant or not relevant.

What examples do you want? Jimmy Saville? Brexit? How many houses you own? Deep down you know I've got a point. Why would this thread have been moved over here if I didn't?

Equally no one has said anything about not appreciating the NHS. All I see though is some sad bitter men on here.

That's the worse attempt at deflection I've seen. Yes, the thread goes off topic at times, but the crux of it is, you either think the government has done a god job on protecting staff or it hasn't? Are you going to defend them when they've clearly fucked up?

The other issue is the herd immunity/ calling lock down too late argument. I've actually defended them a little bit on this but it's all ' a favourite politician being rejected'

You're looking silly mate.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Anyway- it’s warm, it’s Easter, so Happy Easter to all, whether you’re Conservative, Labour- whatever- lots of stuff flying around here and I hope once it’s over we don’t all totally despise each other &can write it off to ‘lockdown syndrome’. Hope everyone has as good a day as it’s possible to have

... all apart from The Lurker- fuck you, Lurker

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Well then we are actually saying very similar things, but don’t run down people who want answers from the people who have made all the mistakes

I'm all for holding the government to account. I detest them. I just think this goes a lot further than that and I'm pretty sick of it.

If I had to be honest there is an alarming amount of politicians in this country across all parties that in my opinion are not remotely even fit enough to serve.

 

[David O'Day]

That's the worse attempt at deflection I've seen. Yes, the thread goes off topic at times, but the crux of it is, you either think the government has done a god job on protecting staff or it hasn't? Are you going to defend them when they've clearly fucked up?

The other issue is the herd immunity/ calling lock down too late argument. I've actually defended them a little bit on this but it's all ' a favourite politician being rejected'

You're looking silly mate.

I have also defended them on herd immunity. While there is no vaccine it is the only way to return to normal.

The argument is how many people would die. Looking at the stats behind the deaths there are a lot of older people dying so it would be hard to protect them.

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

That's the worse attempt at deflection I've seen. Yes, the thread goes off topic at times, but the crux of it is, you either think the government has done a god job on protecting staff or it hasn't? Are you going to defend them when they've clearly fucked up?

The other issue is the herd immunity/ calling lock down too late argument. I've actually defended them a little bit on this but it's all ' a favourite politician being rejected'

You're looking silly mate.

I might be a dickhead sometimes, but I'm a self aware one. I can't see anywhere here where I've made myself look silly.

I've come on here to point out that many people are behaving ridiculously and the coronavirus is just another way to get their political bias across. Given that you jumped down my throat at the first opportunity, I would question your deflection here, rather than my own pretty straight angle.

I've clearly stated several times that the government should be held to account for their mishandling of things. As the son of a nurse/midwife, I know all too well about working conditions under both governments so I can safely say it's appalling across the board. In fact, it makes me pretty sick in the stomach.

I came on here to try and shed a bit of clarity from a more neutral perspective, and put a message out that some people should get a bit of a grip. Not really sure why you are firing shots at me.

 

[Brylowes]

She has got the Abbott treatment. Look at how many have made the same comment. Look at how many have agreed with posts against her.

It remains to be seen as to whether she receives the Abbot treatment or not, as Abbot is still
Receiving the treatment ‘from what I can make out.

 

[Brylowes]

Cheis Smith a senior virologist has frequently stated they are not of much use at all - explained in some detail on a 5 line interview last Saturday (he takes Q and A every week) - I think the Cambridge educated Mr Smith might know more than you

So Are you saying that for instance,
If you wear the mask and you have the virus, it won’t prevent you spreading the virus to others
If you cough or sneeze in a public place ?

 

[fernandopartridge]

It makes me laugh that the people thinking they are taking the higher ground here are actually as bad as, if not worse than the people they are trying to argue with.

There's many people on here that need to take a good look at themselves. It's just the Brexit thread part two, with the same bitter souls putting words in the mouths of others because they can't cope with their favoured politics being rejected by the majority of country.

Maybe by being a little bit more understanding and open to honest and adult debate something good could come of it. I guess we'll have to accept that will never happen though.

This thread really is pathetic.

You Tories get so sore when faced with the reality that you voted for, don't be such a snowflake.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It remains to be seen as to whether she receives the Abbot treatment or not, as Abbot is still
Receiving the treatment ‘from what I can make out.

Although I am loath to back up Patel in any way, shape or form, her error was just one of stumbling over her words rather than just getting her actual figures wrong. So I don't expect her to get quite as much grief over it as Abbott. If she does though it would be quite instructive as to where the criticism is coming from, esp as an ex-Chancellor got relatively little in comparison for also getting the figures wrong.

 

[clint van damme]

Although I am loath to back up Patel in any way, shape or form, her error was just one of stumbling over her words rather than just getting her actual figures wrong. So I don't expect her to get quite as much grief over it as Abbott. If she does though it would be quite instructive as to where the criticism is coming from, esp as an ex-Chancellor got relatively little in comparison for also getting the figures wrong.

think most people are of the same mind, it's an easy mistake, but we all know what would have happened to Abbott.
And to be fair to Priti vacant she was probably quoting Hancocks figures on testing so she may have actually read it how it was written.

 

[PVA]

It makes me laugh that the people thinking they are taking the higher ground here are actually as bad as, if not worse than the people they are trying to argue with.

There's many people on here that need to take a good look at themselves. It's just the Brexit thread part two, with the same bitter souls putting words in the mouths of others because they can't cope with their favoured politics being rejected by the majority of country.

Maybe by being a little bit more understanding and open to honest and adult debate something good could come of it. I guess we'll have to accept that will never happen though.

This thread really is pathetic.

Or maybe, just maybe, people aren't trying to take the higher ground or point score, maybe they're genuinely upset and angry at the appalling response by the government and that thousands of people are dying?

Just a thought.

 

[Grendel]

People playing golf on the local golf course and even drinking on the terrace earlier this evening, they’d even bought some flags

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

And it seems to be those wearing some kind of face mask. They think they are invincible.

I just get straight to the point. 'Get out of my fucking space'

Went to the Supermarket today and a guy was wearing a bin bag on his HEAD.

The World's Gone Nuts.

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

Anyway Patel is better eye candy than Abbott.
Can we all agree on that?

 

[Tommo1993]

Did you guys ever see that pigeon down the burges, it had that McFlurry thing around it’s neck to make it look like it was wearing a ruff from the Stuart times? It was a great thing.

 

[skybluetony176]

So Are you saying that for instance,
If you wear the mask and you have the virus, it won’t prevent you spreading the virus to others
If you cough or sneeze in a public place ?

According to Finish scientists 3D modelling there’s a lot of merit in the general public wearing masks in public not to stop yourself catching it as such but to stop anyone who might have it spreading it. 3D simulation shows how a single cough can spread coronavirus through a grocery store

 

[skybluetony176]

Went to the Supermarket today and a guy was wearing a bin bag on his HEAD.

The World's Gone Nuts.

Maybe he was an NHS worker who’d just finished his shift and not noticed that he’d accidentally left his government supplied PPE on.

 

[PVA]

Did you guys ever see that pigeon down the burges, it had that McFlurry thing around it’s neck to make it look like it was wearing a ruff from the Stuart times? It was a great thing.

No but I saw this

 

[Johhny Blue]

Trump said yesterday that “antibiotics would usually fix these things but the germ has got too smart”

Relatively speaking of course

 

[Johhny Blue]

Without doubt that's his MO. The frightening thing is how many people believe him, and even worse when it's pointed out his revisionist take on things with old tweets/comments they still refuse to believe he was ever wrong or changed his rhetoric.

It's a good job we don't have posters like that on here

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You Tories get so sore when faced with the reality that you voted for, don't be such a snowflake.

Your post (and the attached likes) just qualified my points entirely.

I didn't even vote Conservative.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Or maybe, just maybe, people aren't trying to take the higher ground or point score, maybe they're genuinely upset and angry at the appalling response by the government and that thousands of people are dying?

Just a thought.

Well you are particularly one sided on this so you can keep telling yourself that's the case.

It's pretty obvious this thread is one point scoring orgy.

 

[Johhny Blue]

What Street do you live in?

Downing

 

[SIR ERNIE]

He is making it up as he goes along basing what I said about midwives being the same for those treating positive patients.

But you didn't refer to midwives in your original post though did you:

My girlfriend gets new PPE at the start of each shift, I’d presume and hope this is the same there.

It was only when others pointed out that PPE should be changed for each patient that you admitted she wasn't front line.

 

[Johhny Blue]

I'm informed grenners is trying to talk to me.

As below you are on ignore for being a weirdo.

Get a job

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Funny how you use an ignored post to show that you ignore a poster.
It's back to the dictionary for you son. Ignore is in the ("I" section in between "H' & "J") Ironically "Irony" will be found there as well

 

[Astute]

It remains to be seen as to whether she receives the Abbot treatment or not, as Abbot is still
Receiving the treatment ‘from what I can make out.

How many comments against her from this thread alone would you like to see?

She seems to be useless. She seems to be untrustworthy. She stumbled on a number. Abbott said the number she had worked out for herself. Wouldn't want either of them in charge of anything.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

So genuine question to all the Brexiteers. Would you be happy with the big leave day being postponed off the back of this current situation? I have no agenda or follow up point btw, just interested as it seems split on social media within the brexit ranks.

We have already left and the world is going into recession and that includes Europe, so no party .

 

[PVA]

We have already left and the world is going into recession and that includes Europe, so no party .

We have left in name only. We are still part of just about everything in the EU we just have no say in anything (taking back control).

 

[David O'Day]

Funny how you use an ignored post to show that you ignore a poster.
It's back to the dictionary for you son. Ignore is in the ("I" section in between "H' & "J") Ironically "Irony" will be found there as well

Because I can see his posts when they are quoted.

As you can clearly see it shows the posts as being ignored.

Eyesight would be in the section mate.



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[Liquid Gold]

Criticise both sides all you want. One side has been in charge for a decade and done fuck all to prepare the NHS for anything like this and in actual fact made it less capable due to ideologically enforced privatisations and the other side hasn’t. Hypothetical ‘the other side are just as bad’ is pathetic stawman bollocks.

 

[Ian1779]

I've openly said I think they could have dealt with it better. Equally I think Labour would have dealt with it worse.

You claim to be neutral yet have troped out this nonsense with literally not 1 shred of evidence to support it (mostly because even you know it’s bullshit) So you’re not neutral in the slightest... and making out so is laughably worse than what you accuse some of being.

 

[Otis]

Interesting.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You claim to be neutral yet have troped out this nonsense with literally not 1 shred of evidence to support it (mostly because even you know it’s bullshit) So you’re not neutral in the slightest... and making out so is laughably worse than what you accuse some of being.

What have I said that is nonsense? My points have largely been proven since my original post already.

The mentality here is that because I'm not 100% Labour that means I'm an enemy? I seem to remember the same attitudes back in the 2016 referendum. I've done more tory negative posts (due to the corona handling) and criticse both parties when I see fit. Considering that I didn't vote for, or like either of them, I don't see how that makes me anything other than neutral.

Really, get a grip.

 

[David O'Day]

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Interesting.

The chinese said they had good results with that only on mild to moderate cases