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David O'Day

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Lad, Piers Morgan is a Geoffrey.

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tisza

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What's really disturbing is those (and the quantity) willingly standing with him in this venture.
It's easy to see how Hitler turned Germany into a mental 'State’
The technique is the same.
sacked loads who weren't total Yes "men" then savaged them in the media. Fauci will be gone as soon as Trump gets the chance.
 

shmmeee

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The idea that we can’t be told what the exit strategy is because we might break it is pure nonsense.

Business needs to be able to plan. This is Brexit all over again with the government coming out with some half arsed excuse as to why they haven’t done any forward planning and their supporters lapping it up. Before it was “we don’t want to give the plan away” now it’s “you plebs can’t be trusted”.

At the moment you’ve got business owners I know playing guessing games on the future of their livelihood based of rumours in newspapers. Should my barber plan to be out of work for another six months? Is his one of the first or last businesses to reopen? Same for social club owners, restauranteers, teachers, etc.

You don’t need dates but some idea of order and trigger points allows people to plan.
 

clint van damme

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Must admit, I haven't seen the one about the asking about test numbers.

The issue I have is more his attitude and demeanour towards them, granted I am not an MP and wouldn't be one but if somebody started giving it loads without letting me answer then I wouldn't be that inclined to take them seriously and debate with them. It is like when the club has a press conference and people just start shouting rather than asking.

Of course there are people failing but if you watch he goes day to day with his new issues and agenda, one day it will be test numbers and the next something else. The same as one day it was people going to the pub, the next it was people going for walks etc.

Looking at his social media he went into overdrive about people going for a pint but no mention about people on the bridge, what did he say about them?

they showed the pictures from Westminster bridge last week and he was saying it was ridiculous that they're there clapping for the NHS but risking getting ill and putting more pressure on the service etc. Cressida Dick was there FFS!
To be fair, he's been consistent on calling out anybody ignoring the guidelines.

But you talk about agendas, why are people posting pictures of Westminster bridge from last week and claiming they were from last night?
 

Nick

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they showed the pictures from Westminster bridge last week and he was saying it was ridiculous that they're there clapping for the NHS but risking getting ill and putting more pressure on the service etc. Cressida Dick was there FFS!
To be fair, he's been consistent on calling out anybody ignoring the guidelines.

But you talk about agendas, why are people posting pictures of Westminster bridge from last week and claiming they were from last night?
To be honest, I just searched Westminster bridge and used them and lots were from last night but the one with Dick in was from the week before (when we were still in lockdown and social distancing).

The whole 8PM on a Thursday thing is an invite to act like a dickhead and claim it's supporting the NHS. It's like when we had people acting like dickheads at football matches and claiming it is SISU's fault.

I've just gone off his social media about that one as he was doing tweet after tweet about people going to the pub but no mention of the bridge. Same as when everybody was killing OAPS by going to the pub but no mention of people queing up at ASDA for hours. He may have mentioned it since but he wasn't at the time.
 

Ian1779

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Trump’s press briefings are actually insane. I genuinely find it hard to believe any sane person would actually vote for him. What’s with the strange low and soft patronising voice he does when someone criticised him all about?!

Some of his supporters don’t even listen to a word he says just believe it verbatim. I don’t know if you heard his speech earlier in the year on renewable energy/windmills (Michael Spicer does a very amusing voiceover to it) but people were cheering to agree with the utter nonsense he was spewing out.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Anyone else noticed people driving like wankers because the roads are quieter? Had two pass me on my way to work on Monday. They were racing on the M1 and doing at least 120mph and then last night I was coming back from my evening bike ride and an Audi s4( surprise surprise) came racing round the ambulance only entrance the wrong way at the hospital sliding as he went and very nearly hitting 2 parked vehicles and me in the process.

Yep....some proper Grade A arseholes driving at obscence speeds....some c**t in a range rover sport bombed passed me as I was cycling home from work yesterday.....must have easily been doing 60 maybe even 70 in a 30 zone & his wing mirror missed my elbow by about 5 cm.....I was shaking with fear, adrenaline & rage....I don't think he/she even seen me....the prick.
 

Astute

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And no one has become poorly?
Not those of us that have continued to work at least. All jobs that take 2 people within 6' have stopped. And a lot of us are working so many hours to make up for those not allowed at work that we sleep and rest most of the time we are not at work. Another 72 hour week for me this week. But am happy to do so as I live alone and can't go anywhere when not at work.
 

David O'Day

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Anyone else noticed people driving like wankers because the roads are quieter? Had two pass me on my way to work on Monday. They were racing on the M1 and doing at least 120mph and then last night I was coming back from my evening bike ride and an Audi s4( surprise surprise) came racing round the ambulance only entrance the wrong way at the hospital sliding as he went and very nearly hitting 2 parked vehicles and me in the process.
Sorry mate had to get to Westminster bridge by 8pm

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Astute

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The rules are not virtually the same at all and are much stricter here and in Spain, and that is not taking enforecement into account.
I've had that disagreement with several people.

You have more restrictions than France. France has more restrictions than the UK. It is as though ours is designed to keep a steady flow of people getting the virus so not to overwhelm the NHS but also to eventually get enough people that have had it.
 

Astute

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I think if the numbers go back up then they’ll put the date back. The weather is mid 20s now so by then most bars will be outdoors seating.
That was my thought. But you would have thought they might have said with outside seating facilities only to start.

The last thing Italy needs is a spike in numbers. Everyone will be desperate for somewhere to go that places will be packed.
 

Sick Boy

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Will be interesting to see how that affects things. No news on schools?
I don't think so, but they finish at the start of June, so I presume they won't reopen until September.
Lessons have been taught online and exams are going to be done online as well.
 

Sick Boy

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That was my thought. But you would have thought they might have said with outside seating facilities only to start.

The last thing Italy needs is a spike in numbers. Everyone will be desperate for somewhere to go that places will be packed.
From the 4th May things will start to reopen gradulally, so any hint that things are going badly and the restrictions will return. We are able to travel unrestricted within our own regions' from the 4th, which means that a weekend at the in-laws has already been planned....
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I've just gone off his social media about that one as he was doing tweet after tweet about people going to the pub but no mention of the bridge. Same as when everybody was killing OAPS by going to the pub but no mention of people queing up at ASDA for hours. He may have mentioned it since but he wasn't at the time.

The people gathering in crowds o clap the NHS is stupid - it's doing everything the NHS don't want people to do to make their jobs easier. If you want to clap you can - you don't need to do it there. These people should be called out for the numpties they are and how what their doing could end up killing someone just like the pub goers.

But you've got this fixation about pubs. It was absolutely right to call out those people because they were doing something unnecessary and risking passing the infection on in huge droves.

As for the ASDA thing, as I said before some people will have been there unnecessarily, others won't and actually have been in need of supplies. What do you suggest these people should have done with online bookings and click and collect full. Seen the queue and gone home again? Then gone back a few hours later to see the situation hasn't changed. Then gone back the day after, and the day after that until it's deemed quiet enough?
 

David O'Day

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The people gathering in crowds o clap the NHS is stupid - it's doing everything the NHS don't want people to do to make their jobs easier. If you want to clap you can - you don't need to do it there. These people should be called out for the numpties they are and how what their doing could end up killing someone just like the pub goers.

But you've got this fixation about pubs. It was absolutely right to call out those people because they were doing something unnecessary and risking passing the infection on in huge droves.

As for the ASDA thing, as I said before some people will have been there unnecessarily, others won't and actually have been in need of supplies. What do you suggest these people should have done with online bookings and click and collect full. Seen the queue and gone home again? Then gone back a few hours later to see the situation hasn't changed. Then gone back the day after, and the day after that until it's deemed quiet enough?
What Asda is that? It's never been more than a 15 to 20 minute wait for me at the abbey park one

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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I'm going to show sympathy here and assume he's metaphorically meaning vaccine acts like a disinfectant.

I doubt it mate.

Still if his hardcore base want to try it'll massively increase the chances of him losing the election. Or even better he could have one of those Gummer moments and get him and his kids to do it to prove it's safe (#gallowshumour)

We can now add Domestos Violence to all his other crimes and misdemeanours
 

David O'Day

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I doubt it mate.

Still if his hardcore base want to try it'll massively increase the chances of him losing the election. Or even better he could have one of those Gummer moments and get him and his kids to do it to prove it's safe (#gallowshumour)

We can now add Domestos Violence to all his other crimes and misdemeanours
The fellas behind dettol have had to warn people not to inject their products

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Nick

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The people gathering in crowds o clap the NHS is stupid - it's doing everything the NHS don't want people to do to make their jobs easier. If you want to clap you can - you don't need to do it there. These people should be called out for the numpties they are and how what their doing could end up killing someone just like the pub goers.

But you've got this fixation about pubs. It was absolutely right to call out those people because they were doing something unnecessary and risking passing the infection on in huge droves.

As for the ASDA thing, as I said before some people will have been there unnecessarily, others won't and actually have been in need of supplies. What do you suggest these people should have done with online bookings and click and collect full. Seen the queue and gone home again? Then gone back a few hours later to see the situation hasn't changed. Then gone back the day after, and the day after that until it's deemed quiet enough?

It isn't a fixation, it's just an example right at the very start where a particular thing was singled out. I didn't personally go to a pub.

The people who gathered for the NHS include NHS staff and police who I assume are on duty as they are in uniform and driving ambulances / police vans. That helicopter fly over in Coventry was shocking. I was pointing out that people will see it and then not bother staying in.

I still haven't been to a supermarket in weeks and we have far from starved and have been able to wipe our arses. If anything we are eating better now.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The fellas behind dettol have had to warn people not to inject their products

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I guess to be fair to him in a clinical trial the number of people dying from coronavirus after injecting bleach would be 0%
 

CCFCSteve

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But remember there was no demand.....

I know I shouldn’t as it’s a serious subject but I had to chuckle earlier as he’s having an absolute mare isn’t he (it’s like everything he’s touched has turned to shit recently). I bet it will be the new testing guy that will get the credit for getting the capacity up to 100k next week as well !

To be fair to Hancock though he knows the demand is there, they’ve just broadened those that can apply for a test (to all key workers from just nhs/care and families) as they’re nowhere near using the capacity, hence the flood of requests (just heard on the radio they had 5000 requests in two mins). Possibly shouldve ensured they system could’ve coped before making the announcement though !
 

David O'Day

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I know I shouldn’t as it’s a serious subject but I had to chuckle earlier as he’s having an absolute mare isn’t he (it’s like everything he’s touched has turned to shit recently). I bet it will be the new testing guy that will get the credit for getting the capacity up to 100k next week as well !

To be fair to Hancock though he knows the demand is there, they’ve just broadened those that can apply for a test (to all key workers from just nhs/care and families) as they’re nowhere near using the capacity, hence the flood of requests (just heard on the radio they had 5000 requests in two mins). Possibly shouldve ensured they system could’ve coped before making the announcement though !
They were nowhere near using the capacity as they could not take enough swabs

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Nick

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Wonder how many people want a test because they think they have the virus, and how many are just doing it for the sake of it

How many likes do you reckon it would get on Facebook if there was a selfie of somebody being tested?
 

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