Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (289 Viewers)

[Ian1779]

my money's on facebook.

Even her parody is better than him...

 

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[David O'Day]

Seems the chancellor has folded and is just extending the furlough scheme

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[SkyBlueDom26]

Furlough extended to October, Sunak is great but i guarantee some wanker will moan about it on here.... Good to see the government keeping people in work

 

[wingy]

Least said, soonest mended. Wasn't meant to offend anybody. Not in favour of the UK breaking up in general. Just thought it was interesting seeing opposing positions from countries within the UK, and possible political motivations ( whether real or otherwise)

You haven't offended Harry, and you're entitled to have your own opinion.
Respect to you.

 

[PVA]

There is evidence that sturgeon was involved in the lies exposed in the salmond trial. She is a far less popular leader in Scotland than Johnson is here. Sturgeon in normal times would be finished

She’s a serial opportunist who only went “off message” as she was banned from the last COVID meeting because she kept doing press conferences immediately afterwards to try and show influence and leadership

Or maybe, and just a hunch, she went 'off message' because like the rest of us she recognises Johnson's message is abysmal and will cost more lives?

Just a thought.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Is there anywhere I can check which borders are open where?

I was gonna drive to Ibiza but that's a bit out of the question so will probably head east.

I'll be attempting this in about 5 weeks time.

Personally, I'd postpone it. Even if you manage it, it might not be the relaxing break you were hoping for!

 

[David O'Day]

Furlough extended to October, Sunak is great but i guarantee some wanker will moan about it on here.... Good to see the government keeping people in work

He's folded from his original plan to reduce it to 60 percent you fucking stupid twat.

Nothing you say is true you 3rd rate parody of a poster.

Shall we talk about all the people who have fell through the cracks on the scheme?

Let's actually talk a out the policy and let's see how little you know

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[SkyBlueDom26]

Is there anywhere I can check which borders are open where?

I was gonna drive to Ibiza but that's a bit out of the question so will probably head east.

I'll be attempting this in about 5 weeks time.

Haha I've just booked ibiza for the end of next May, think this year is a write off

 

[skybluetony176]

Furlough extended to October, Sunak is great but i guarantee some wanker will moan about it on here.... Good to see the government keeping people in work

Good to know that I’m going to be paying Covtarians mortgage and keeping him in booze until October at least. You’re welcome Covtarian.

 

[David O'Day]

Or maybe, and just a hunch, she went 'off message' because like the rest of us she recognises Johnson's message is abysmal and will cost more lives?

Just a thought.

She's not banned from the covid meetings that are for the uk.

She doesn't attend the england ones much like Boris doesn't attend the ones in Wales and Scotland.

Lying c**t

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[Grendel]

Or maybe, and just a hunch, she went 'off message' because like the rest of us she recognises Johnson's message is abysmal and will cost more lives?

Just a thought.

Whets your view in her involvement in the conspiracy that ended up being exposed as a pack of lies in a Scottish court?

 

[clint van damme]

Furlough extended to October, Sunak is great but i guarantee some wanker will moan about it on here.... Good to see the government keeping people in work

Who will moan?
Sunak is the only one of this useless mob who pretty much escaped criticism.
Personally if people are on furlough until October then we're in big trouble.
Perhaps this is to cover people getting re-furloughed in the event of a second wave.

 

[shmmeee]

Furlough extended to October, Sunak is great but i guarantee some wanker will moan about it on here.... Good to see the government keeping people in work

Really good announcement if I’m reading it correctly. Still 80% of wages paid and no longer requiring staff to not be working? Is that right? My only question is if people are working, wouldn’t they be getting full pay? Little confused.

 

[David O'Day]

Good to know that I’m going to be paying Covtarians mortgage and keeping him in booze until October at least. You’re welcome Covtarian.

Dom is pretending they haven't changed their plans.

He's a joke

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[fernandopartridge]

Furlough extended to October, Sunak is great but i guarantee some wanker will moan about it on here.... Good to see the government keeping people in work

Yes, agreed, fair play for that.

Make no mistake though, once again it was only due to this policy of leaking a proposal to illicit a response then deciding a course of action.

 

[David O'Day]

Really good announcement if I’m reading it correctly. Still 80% of wages paid and no longer requiring staff to not be working? Is that right? My only question is if people are working, wouldn’t they be getting full pay? Little confused.

It's basically an extension. Nothing to fix the holes in the original plan.

They need to take valid job offers as proof of employment etc

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[Grendel]

She's not banned from the covid meetings that are for the uk.

She doesn't attend the england ones much like Boris doesn't attend the ones in Wales and Scotland.

Lying c**t

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Is that a quote from George Bernard Shaw

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Dom is pretending they haven't changed their plans.

He's a joke

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Only joke on this forum is yourself, give them credit they are stopping millions becoming redundant

 

[David O'Day]

Yes, agreed, fair play for that.

Make no mistake though, once again it was only due to this policy of leaking a proposal to illicit a response then deciding a course of action.

It will be fair play when they actually help the people who fell through the cracks.

Also yes you are right they have only changed as they were getting monstered in the press

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[wingy]

Least said, soonest mended. Wasn't meant to offend anybody. Not in favour of the UK breaking up in general. Just thought it was interesting seeing opposing positions from countries within the UK, and possible political motivations ( whether real or otherwise)

I think there are obviously times when opportunities get exploited, but don't think this is one .
For instance the potential has been there.
for regional disparities too .
A little like lobbying from differing age groups to be exempted/released from restrictions .
Differentials and potential for them are everywhere.
I'd look closely at the schedule leading up to and then the announcement to evaluate if anyone acted out of step to usurp procedure/proceedings.

 

[skybluetony176]

Only joke on this forum is yourself, give them credit they are stopping millions becoming redundant

While killing thousands of others.

 

[David O'Day]

Only joke on this forum is yourself, give them credit they are stopping millions becoming redundant

I'll give them them credit whe they actually fix the faults in the scheme.

For example what can be done to help people who left one job at the end of march and were due to start a new one at the start of april?

Let's talk about the actual policy

I do feel the change of mind is to distract from the fact that as per the ons there are over 40k dead now

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[Ring Of Steel]

It will be fair play when they actually help the people who fell through the cracks.

Also yes you are right they have only changed as they were getting monstered in the press

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Not watching- anything said on self employed?

 

[David O'Day]

While killing thousands of others.

Let's see what dum knows about the scheme.

Yes it's good that you chancellor reversed his original plans to taper the furlough scheme but there are major issues that need to be fixed



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[David O'Day]

Not watching- anything said on self employed?

The self employed version is a clusterfuck

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[Deleted member 5849]

Really good announcement if I’m reading it correctly. Still 80% of wages paid and no longer requiring staff to not be working? Is that right? My only question is if people are working, wouldn’t they be getting full pay? Little confused.

That would sound open to abuse if so!

 

[David O'Day]

Come on dom.

Let us talk about the scheme

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[shmmeee]

Good to know that I’m going to be paying Covtarians mortgage and keeping him in booze until October at least. You’re welcome Covtarian.

Lazy righties living the life of Riley on benefits

 

[David O'Day]

They quickly need to look at the issue of people who had found new jobs to start in april.

They aren't covered.

They also need to look at the people who earned minimum wage and are now being paid less than the minimum wage.

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[Ring Of Steel]

The self employed version is a clusterfuck

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Yep it is, was wondering if any update would be given.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Also find it interesting how Scotland, Wales etc are trying to establish a different agenda, which the cynic in me thinks they are trying to accentuate their national identity, rather than all working together. Not a time to play politics for politics sake.

There may be an element of that but I think the main reason is because they think it's bad advice. Cases and deaths are still far too high to be relaxing measures and have decided to put out their own message on the grounds of what is best for the people.

Over the coming weeks it will be interesting to see if there is much divergence between England's rates and the rest of the UK.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Lazy righties living the life of Riley on benefits

I also like "Covtarian" as a name, makes him sound like a Doctor Who villain from Wood End in the year 2864

 

[shmmeee]

They quickly need to look at the issue of people who had found new jobs to start in april.

They aren't covered.

They also need to look at the people who earned minimum wage and are now being paid less than the minimum wage.

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TBF you’re right. There’s issues with the existing scheme. But keeping it in was the right decision compared to tapering off the furlough payments.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Come on dom.

Let us talk about the scheme

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What that millions will actually have a wage, don't see anything wrong with that.... seems that you clearly do and that's weird

 

[Deleted member 5849]

If it were just Scotland, there might be a point. Northern Ireland have half their government pro Union however, and there's no great nationalist movement in Wales. So if all three differ from England, that probably suggests the English message is the one out of kilter.