Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (22 Viewers)

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Its not subtle though, its obvious- everything up to now is not his fault, thats the message & just like was called out on here someone will get thrown under a bus. Its hard to get wound up over at this stage, because thats just "politics" & gameplaying, you'd see it in every walk of life where someone is trying to absolve themselves of responsibility, how many times have you seen a manager say that he "inherited a weak group" and all that stuff even though they've been in charge ages?

This is why Starmer needs to do something (anything?), Cummings is already yesterday's news after being the devil incarnate a week ago- just another example of how he is up against a powerhouse of a machine that- whether you like it or not- is massively efficient and is going to trample all over him unless he seriously starts understanding just what it is he is up against.

To be fair, the main thing taking attention off Cummings is a massive anti-racism protest in the US that is now global. There's no way the Tories cooked that one up. Just them once again getting very very lucky with the timing.

 

[wingy]

He doesn’t live here - and nor do his children - he renounced citizenship due to England being too racist

Tbf Stanley and Farage have applied for EU passports
They're not the only ones.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The shit me and my family have had to go through the last few months, to then see this shit along with those tossers on the beach. What's the fucking point. Pricks.

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For many who can't be bothered with the already weak lockdown this is the chance to do that and act like a hero.

 

[hill83]

I'm in two minds with this. I fully support the protests, but we are the middle of a fucking pandemic.
Spread out a bit at least.

 

[shmmeee]

but if they are using something like Microsoft teams then it's mostly centralised and now the kids are all used to it, a lot easier.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I think personally definitely herd immunity. They're smart enough, and don't forget Cummings' alleged quote beforehand about it "not mattering if a few old people die", plus his videoed comments about the Conservatives not caring about the NHS and 'poor people', while hyping up Eugenics. Forget Boris, he's a dummy, a puppet, if his 'advisors' had told him that dressing as a clown made you immune to the virus he'd have been telling the nation to stock up on makeup & outsize shoes.

That have backed themselves into a bit of a corner though, because they've left the public with two options.

1. They attempted to shield people from the virus and got it so massively wrong they're clearly totally incompetent and unfit to govern.

2. They have no intention of doing so and always stuck with herd immunity. In which case they lied about what they were doing and actively tried to bring about the deaths of tens of thousands of people. Which makes them evil and potentially up for genocide charges as they've effectively targeted killing off the elderly and vulnerable.

 

[Grendel]

Tbf Stanley and Farage have applied for EU passports
They're not the only ones.

he did in in about 2006

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Teachers have been off work for ages. Not their choice, but how are they working their arses off just lately any more than than they usually do ?

Are you on a wind up? Remote teaching (from scratch in a few weeks without expertise in it). Others having to be in school for key worker kids. Setting and planning work for kids off and at school. Just because they're not in the school doesn't mean they aren't working. It's not like a production line where you can't do anything unless you're actually there.

 

[shmmeee]

Are you on a wind up? Remote teaching (from scratch in a few weeks without expertise in it). Others having to be in school for key worker kids. Setting and planning work for kids off and at school. Just because they're not in the school doesn't mean they aren't working. It's not like a production line where you can't do anything unless you're actually there.

He’s not a real teacher. All finger painting and PE in your pants.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He’s not a real teacher. All finger painting and PE in your pants.

PEE in his case

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Teachers have always worked hard, but they're not working harder now, just differently.

So by doing things using a system they're unfamiliar with in circumstances very different to the norm, this will take more time and effort to do. Ergo they have to work harder than normal.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

That have backed themselves into a bit of a corner though, because they've left the public with two options.

1. They attempted to shield people from the virus and got it so massively wrong they're clearly totally incompetent and unfit to govern.

2. They have no intention of doing so and always stuck with herd immunity. In which case they lied about what they were doing and actively tried to bring about the deaths of tens of thousands of people. Which makes them evil and potentially up for genocide charges as they've effectively targeted killing off the elderly and vulnerable.

It’s much closer to 2- remember they knowingly sent covid positive patients into care homes, what other possible outcome could there have been than thousands dead?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s much closer to 2- remember they knowingly sent covid positive patients into care homes, what other possible outcome could there have been than thousands dead?

It's very sad seeing Vallance and Whitty continue to cover for the government at these briefings. Or maybe they're covering themselves.

 

[David O'Day]

No social distancing? And yeah I don’t think the beaches should have been opened as they were too busy.... let’s just hope all the hard work hasn’t been undone over the last couple of weeks

But why only a picture of the black lives matter protest.

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

We’ll be back to square one in a few weeks by the looks of it! All this hard work could be for nothing because people haven’t obeyed the rules

Why so negative! I wonder if there may have been something that occurred in the past week or so that made people just think 'fuck it' to the rules? Or maybe someone eased the rules despite not meeting any of the metrics they set themselves to allow it and made an absolute pigs ear of explaining what was and wasn't permissible that most people just tuned out and decided to use their 'instinct' (though I've no idea why they'd have decided to do that)?

 

[David O'Day]

They've already been posted tbf. I hadn't seen this one. Second wave is on the way.

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Not by Dom

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[SkyBlueDom26]

But why only a picture of the black lives matter protest.

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I don’t fucking know, why don’t you ask the person who tweeted it..... i criticised the beaches being packed the other week you idiot

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It’s much closer to 2- remember they knowingly sent covid positive patients into care homes, what other possible outcome could there have been than thousands dead?

I'm certainly moving more towards 2. I was mainly making a point that those are the only possible explanations for what has happened and neither of them make them look good.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Why so negative! I wonder if there may have been something that occurred in the past week or so that made people just think 'fuck it' to the rules? Or maybe someone eased the rules despite not meeting any of the metrics they set themselves to allow it?

Yeah it’s been a mess all over, hard to tell what happens from now

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I'm certainly moving more towards 2. I was mainly making a point that those are the only possible explanations for what has happened and neither of them make them look good.

I'm clinging on to the hope that it's just incompetence. Getting harder to do that as more evidence emerges

 

[covmark]

Not by Dom

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So?

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah it’s been a mess all over, hard to tell what happens from now

Deaths seem to be plateauing at a pretty horrifying 300-400 and we're quarantining people from countries with barely any new infections. Johnson has got to fall on his sword for this, I don't mind a more level headed Tory taking charge.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

So?

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I wouldn’t bother mate, he’ll do anything to try and start an argument best ignoring it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

@SkyBlueDom26 is that you accepting that Boris needs to go?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Deaths seem to be plateauing at a pretty horrifying 300-400 and we're quarantining people from countries with barely any new infections. Johnson has got to fall on his sword for this, I don't mind a more level headed Tory taking charge.

It’s a complete nightmare with no end in sight, nobody can predict what will happen in the next 6 months it’s anyone’s guess

 

[PVA]

Would you rather be in Italy?

Taking back control

The EU are making a mess of this crisis

We're better off out of it

Etc etc

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s a complete nightmare with no end in sight, nobody can predict what will happen in the next 6 months it’s anyone’s guess

That's a big turnaround from what you were saying before, respect for you being honest about it.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

That's a big turnaround from what you were saying before, respect for you being honest about it.

I don’t think he should go ‘yet’ but he needs to get some sort of grip on this situation, it’s like nobody is listening and the country is becoming closer to financial collapse each day, we also need to get a massive grip on PPE and testing as it’s a mess

One thing I do admire is the furlough scheme, incredible from the government

 

[covmark]

Deaths seem to be plateauing at a pretty horrifying 300-400 and we're quarantining people from countries with barely any new infections. Johnson has got to fall on his sword for this, I don't mind a more level headed Tory taking charge.

He has to go. It's a monumental fuck up, no matter how it's dressed up.

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[fernandopartridge]

They've already been posted tbf. I hadn't seen this one. Second wave is on the way.

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The first one hasn't really broken yet its just regaining strength

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[PVA]

I don’t think he should go ‘yet’ but he needs to get some sort of grip on this situation, it’s like nobody is listening and the country is becoming closer to financial collapse each day, we also need to get a massive grip on PPE and testing as it’s a mess

One thing I do admire is the furlough scheme, incredible from the government

Bloody hell.

They really must be doing badly if even Dom is turning on 'are brave Boris'

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Would you rather be in Italy?

Taking back control

The EU are making a mess of this crisis

We're better off out of it

Etc etc

equalise out the populations and it’s us and Sweden miles worse than anyone else- the two herd immunity countries.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t think he should go ‘yet’ but he needs to get some sort of grip on this situation, it’s like nobody is listening and the country is becoming closer to financial collapse each day, we also need to get a massive grip on PPE and testing as it’s a mess

One thing I do admire is the furlough scheme, incredible from the government

He needed to get a grip on it months/ages ago and he was either unwilling or unable to take the required actions. His weakness over Cummings should have been the final straw and right now we will be the worst in Europe by a very long distance. Do you think he should go when it's over?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

He needed to get a grip on it months/ages ago and he was either unwilling or unable to take the required actions. His weakness over Cummings should have been the final straw and right now we will be the worst in Europe by a very long distance. Do you think he should go when it's over?

I think he might resign and someone else will take over

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

equalise out the populations and it’s us and Sweden miles worse than anyone else- the two herd immunity countries.

While Greece, an economic basket case and on the continent, has barely 150 deaths in total and 3,000 cases.