Do you want to discuss boring politics? (244 Viewers)

[Grendel]

You are a strange little man.

Back to the incel forums with you.

to be fair I’m sure you are far more familiar with their forums than me

 

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[COV]

Looks like Rory Stewart called it right again

To think he was in the running for Tory leader and we ended up with Boris who has today said “Afghanistan can’t be a breeding ground for terrorists”. Too late Boris, the horse has bolted. Clueless prick.

Surely ‘countries’ aren’t breeding grounds for terrorists, ideologies are and they are in every country

 

[Evo1883]

It's literally Vietnam 2.0 for the USA

 

[Ccfcisparks]

to be fair I’m sure you are far more familiar with their forums than me

Grendel, out of curiosity, did you used to sit in the family zone at the Ricoh?

 

[wingy]

It's literally Vietnam 2.0 for the USA

British children in the audio or British and children I think.

 

[Grendel]

Grendel, out of curiosity, did you used to sit in the family zone at the Ricoh?

no did you

 

[Ccfcisparks]

no did you

Well yes about 8/9 years ago when I was a young teen

 

[clint van damme]

It's literally Vietnam 2.0 for the USA

Despite the Talibans statement of no retribution ( which I'm fairly sure of no one believed), looks like they've already killed some interpreters.
Horrendous stuff.

 

[Liquid Gold]

It's going to be an absolute bloodbath there. Really feel for the people that are in danger and also for those that are going to be left behind to live under a medieval regime.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

On a serious note, all the countries involved should be doing what it can to take in refugees from the area, the situation over there is likely to get very nasty - it’s no good western countries just walking away and turning a blind eye to it.

Well I hope you are right but the experience of Syia suggests this country at least will not do much.

 

[shmmeee]

to be fair I’m sure you are far more familiar with their forums than me

Literally “I know you are but what am I”

Go home Grendel, you’re drunk.

 

[Evo1883]

Honestly woke up so annoyed about Afghanistan and I guess many ex/ military personnel will be the same

Lives lost , regions fucked up , peoples lives altered , suicide , mental health problems of thousands of young men and women , innocent people including children dead , refugee crisis ..


And for what

So pissed off

2 friends who took there own lives after going to this shit hole ..Blair and Bush living the life of luxury leaving a trail of destruction , its devastating

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Surely ‘countries’ aren’t breeding grounds for terrorists, ideologies are and they are in every country

Taliban retaking Afghanistan makes it much more likely Islamic terrorism will breed there. You can argue that's an ideology but if a group with that ideology are in control of the country then that country becomes a potential breeding ground.

Just like the US is a breeding ground for right-wing nutjobs to go on shooting sprees.

 

[Evo1883]

Do America ever win a war

 

[shmmeee]

Do America ever win a war

Not even against drugs. Worse than the French.

 

[wingy]

Incredible footage from the airport of of people running down the runway clambering onto the fuselage of a military plane .

 

[fernandopartridge]

Taliban retaking Afghanistan makes it much more likely Islamic terrorism will breed there. You can argue that's an ideology but if a group with that ideology are in control of the country then that country becomes a potential breeding ground.

Just like the US is a breeding ground for right-wing nutjobs to go on shooting sprees.

No more so than as a country occupied by a Western power where the Taliban is resurgent anyway.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Taliban retaking Afghanistan makes it much more likely Islamic terrorism will breed there. You can argue that's an ideology but if a group with that ideology are in control of the country then that country becomes a potential breeding ground.

Just like the US is a breeding ground for right-wing nutjobs to go on shooting sprees.

Johnson was talking yesterday about a be a change of Government in Afghanistan, like it's the sort of change we have here after a general election.

This is an extreme regime that we have spent 20 years suppressing and which harboured Bin Ladin. To allow them back is disastrous, not just for the people of Afghanistan but for the West too.

 

[Ian1779]

20 years of resources, unnecessary loss of life for both soldiers and civilians - how have the Taliban managed to captured an entire country in 7 days?

 

[shmmeee]

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

Honestly woke up so annoyed about Afghanistan and I guess many ex/ military personnel will be the same

Lives lost , regions fucked up , peoples lives altered , suicide , mental health problems of thousands of young men and women , innocent people including children dead , refugee crisis ..


And for what

So pissed off

2 friends who took there own lives after going to this shit hole ..Blair and Bush living the life of luxury leaving a trail of destruction , its devastating

Very difficult not to feel this way, the strategy was just never achievable and the speed with which the Taliban are back on top makes that very clear. Sorry to hear about your friends Evo, this is going to rake over old wounds for thousands here (and mean god knows what for the average poor bastard stuck in Afghanistan).

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

20 years of resources, unnecessary loss of life for both soldiers and civilians - how have the Taliban managed to captured an entire country in 7 days?

Complete lack of will to oppose them it would seem. We've poured billions into their security forces and they've gone through them like they weren't there (which in some places is probably the most accurate description). It will probably revert to the kind of patchwork, tribal alliances and warfare that has characterised the place for centuries, you can expect the likes of Dostum and various other war criminals to re-emerge pretty quickly to make deals and carve out areas of influence/control.

 

[COV]

Not even against drugs. Worse than the French.

they didn’t do too bad against us tbf

 

[shmmeee]

they didn’t do too bad against us tbf

I thought that but then remembered they weren’t technical America then so it doesn’t count (that’s my excuse )

 

[Johnnythespider]

20 years of resources, unnecessary loss of life for both soldiers and civilians - how have the Taliban managed to captured an entire country in 7 days?

They've been allowed to

 

[clint van damme]

20 years of resources, unnecessary loss of life for both soldiers and civilians - how have the Taliban managed to captured an entire country in 7 days?

It hasn't happened in7 days. The process was started during the Trump administration, I'm not sure what the Yanks are thinking.

 

[COV]

I thought that but then remembered they weren’t technical America then so it doesn’t count (that’s my excuse )

you may be right, also technically it could maybe be classed as a civil war

 

[COV]

They've been allowed to

saw footage of the Afghan forces scarpering with terrified & angry locals chucking rocks at them as they were being left to fend for themselves, and long queues outside banks- it’s going to be horrific

 

[Evo1883]

I've seen a video of people falling off the side of American military plane, just desperate

 

[Evo1883]

I thought that but then remembered they weren’t technical America then so it doesn’t count (that’s my excuse )

Well 80% of the original American settlers were from British blood .

They also had the help of France, Spain and the Dutch to win a war against what was actually a small British force tbh at peak was 48,000

 

[wingy]

I've seen a video of people falling off the side of American military plane, just desperate

Almost under the wheels, hundreds of them , danger of getting sucked into the engine's etc.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Clown world.

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

Well 80% of the original American settlers were from British blood .

They also had the help of France, Spain and the Dutch to win a war against what was actually a small British force tbh at peak was 48,000

Think we fucked our chances of winning that war pretty early on and the appearance of a french fleet basically swung Yorktown for the yanks and brought the end. From what i remember from my uni days the Russians piled in on us at one point too.

 

[shmmeee]

More evidence Grammars don’t do what they purport to

 

[David O'Day]

Think we fucked our chances of winning that war pretty early on and the appearance of a french fleet basically swung Yorktown for the yanks and brought the end. From what i remember from my uni days the Russians piled in on us at one point too.

Also the French and Spanish sniffing around the sugar islands in the West Indies as well help the Americans