Do you want to discuss boring politics? (237 Viewers)
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COV
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Last time I voted it was for Craig to win Big Brother in 2000.. would have gone for Nasty Nick but he got the boot a few weeks previous for cheating
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So what if he's just a talk show host. He's very prominently in the public eye and a lot of people listen to him and believe what he says. He has more influence than most politicians. He has been tricked into saying it but then you've got to ask if something like this gets past him then how likely is it that he's really paying aattention?
It's not like I'm saying he should be investigated/arrested FFS. But if this had been someone else it wouldn't just be dismissed as a mistake. It would be questioned as to how this managed to get through and whether they were paying enough attention to what was being asked of them.
Basically, with someone else it'd be their fault for not noticing it, with Farage it's the person who asked him to say it who's at fault for tricking him.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Well as he was an MEP for ages, was a prominent figure in the Leave campaign and was the leader of a couple of political parties that did well in local elections and got quite a few votes for what were fringe parties it would appear quite a few people take him seriously.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I assume by that you mean on the share value rather than the returns, be it dividend or capital gain.
In that instance it would form part of a wealth tax, which I think needs looking into.
Obviously it would need structuring such that it would not put off share ownership. It may push more people into preferring providing finance via loans rather than equity, and so therefore an equivalent on loan capital would also need to be introduced.
It would be difficult as share prices can fluctuate quite dramatically. Would you take an average of the closing price at the end of trading everyday?
Grendel
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great plan let’s tax people even more and reduce the future pensions to boot
Liquid Gold
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I do think it's high time we removed Jack Straw from government to be fair.
Astute
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So anyone who has ever said that someone looks like someone else is racist? Or does it just count for those who are not white British
If it was any race in general then yes.
My guess would be that the person you are talking about is aligned to something you like to have a go at/point scoring. Or are we now not allowed to say two people look similar
skybluetony176
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He’d have to be the world’s worst player of guess who to mix them up. All he has to ask himself is does he have a beard or does he wear glasses. If the answer is no to either of them questions it’s Sajid Javid.So anyone who has ever said that someone looks like someone else is racist? Or does it just count for those who are not white British
If it was any race in general then yes.
My guess would be that the person you are talking about is aligned to something you like to have a go at/point scoring. Or are we now not allowed to say two people look similar
skybluetony176
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Skybluefaz
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Then yes what?
Evo1883
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He does have a point though , why are you not aloud to say somebody looks like somebody else , even if they don't?
People say I look like a young Brad Pitt
So anyone who has ever said that someone looks like someone else is racist? Or does it just count for those who are not white British
If it was any race in general then yes.
My guess would be that the person you are talking about is aligned to something you like to have a go at/point scoring. Or are we now not allowed to say two people look similar
If I thought two people looked alike I would not say 'they all look the same to me'.
Would you?
He didn't, he said 'They all look the same to me'. (According to eyewitnesses).
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COV
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So anyone who has ever said that someone looks like someone else is racist? Or does it just count for those who are not white British
If it was any race in general then yes.
My guess would be that the person you are talking about is aligned to something you like to have a go at/point scoring. Or are we now not allowed to say two people look similar
Have you seen them? They look nothing like each other
COV
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He sounds like a lovely guy tbf
MP loses charity role after allegedly saying Asian ministers ‘look the same’
Tory James Gray told to step back from St John Ambulance after he reportedly introduced Nadhim Zahawi as health secretary
skybluetony176
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Every newspaper including the Mail, for balance. Apparently he was on stage at the time addressing 50 people at an event, he mixed them up, someone pointed out the error to which he replied in front of 50 people (according to the Mail) “They all look the same to me”.
skybluetony176
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Oh come on. It’s not like he’s got form for being controversial…He sounds like a lovely guy tbf
MP loses charity role after allegedly saying Asian ministers ‘look the same’
Tory James Gray told to step back from St John Ambulance after he reportedly introduced Nadhim Zahawi as health secretarywww.theguardian.com
Tory James Gray apologises for sick joke about delivering 'bomb' to Labour MP
The MP made the 'foolish' remark on a Tory WhatsApp group ahead of Labour's conference in Brighton - where an IRA bomb killed five people at the Conservative conference in 1984
www.mirror.co.uk
Skybluefaz
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Islamaphobia in the Tory party is nothing new or even an argument worth having is it?
They need to own it and sort it out.
Labour and anti-semitism are on a similar journey. Albeit hopefully it's more days without incident for Labour.
news.sky.com
They need to own it and sort it out.
Labour and anti-semitism are on a similar journey. Albeit hopefully it's more days without incident for Labour.
Tory Islamophobia inquiry: Anti-Muslim sentiment 'remains a problem' within Conservative Party, report finds
A 44,000-word report will "make for very uncomfortable reading" among the Tory leadership and party members, its author says.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Fucking hell..wow.....the guy is either a massive racist, or it was a very very ill judged attempt at off-the-cuff humour in a Jerry Sadowitz type stylee......but I'll have a tenner on option A : Massive racist.
Sky Blue Pete
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It’s ok as it’s not hiddenIslamaphobia in the Tory party is nothing new or even an argument worth having is it?
They need to own it and sort it out.
Labour and anti-semitism are on a similar journey. Albeit hopefully it's more days without incident for Labour.
Tory Islamophobia inquiry: Anti-Muslim sentiment 'remains a problem' within Conservative Party, report finds
A 44,000-word report will "make for very uncomfortable reading" among the Tory leadership and party members, its author says.
Sky Blue Pete
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Nope he said he isn’t racist
skybluetony176
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Naaa. It’s clearly an honest mistake. He’s a good guy.
MP had affair while wife battled cancer
NORTH Wiltshire MP James Gray has left his wife but says he will not be quitting his parliamentary seat.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Is he Jerry Sadowitz?
jimmyhillsfanclub
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In fact....looking at his ever growing list of shame provided above....maybe hes actually Alan B'stard MP
Have you even read the posts above you and the story?