Well if you read the posts and the actual story you will see that yes he did say 'they all look the same to me'.
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Well if you read the posts and the actual story you will see that yes he did say 'they all look the same to me'.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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So anyone who has ever said that someone looks like someone else is racist? Or does it just count for those who are not white British
If it was any race in general then yes.
My guess would be that the person you are talking about is aligned to something you like to have a go at/point scoring. Or are we now not allowed to say two people look similar
Everyone gets people mixed up. But these are prominent members of his party who are regularly in the media. They've got quite obvious differences. Do you think he's say the same about Raab and Hancock for example?
Astute
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Shake someone's hand and all is OK.
If a comment about someone who is black is racist then it is racist whatever the background of the comment. No excuses should be used. But if you try to understand one comment you should try to understand all comments and not say guilty/not guilty because of political stance/point scoring.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Oh come on. It’s not like he’s got form for being controversial…
… this month.
Tory James Gray apologises for sick joke about delivering 'bomb' to Labour MP
The MP made the 'foolish' remark on a Tory WhatsApp group ahead of Labour's conference in Brighton - where an IRA bomb killed five people at the Conservative conference in 1984www.mirror.co.uk
Probably just shoved him up the pecking order for a ministerial position in this government.
shmmeee
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You mean like you’ve just done?
You literally just steamrolled in here defending a racist remark without bothering to check if he said it or not and accused me of making it up.
Astute
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Agree. If one is guilty both are guilty. If one is innocent they are both innocent. Shaking a hand doesn't take away from the comment made.
Astute
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Look above
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Naaa. It’s clearly an honest mistake. He’s a good guy.
MP had affair while wife battled cancer
NORTH Wiltshire MP James Gray has left his wife but says he will not be quitting his parliamentary seat.www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk
So had an affair while his wife was having cancer treatment and has made at best ill-judged language that could be construed as racist but doesn't see the problem in it.
He's just following the Boris path to power.
COV
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Literally nothing you are saying makes sense
Literally no one has defended Jack Straw. One person used it as a pathetic deflection from this story.
And to repeat, he didn't say two people look similar. He said 'they all look the same'
COV
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I get the feeling that would turn into a very long & unrewarding conversation, so no.
David O'Day
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shmmeee
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It was more about your jump to try and question whether he said it at all because of your bias that makes you think all accusations of racism against a RW politician are false.
Astute
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My bias? So what is my bias?
Boris is an absolute idiot. I have never voted Tory. I have never voted UKIP. My wife and younger kids live in an EU country. I will be joining them in 18 months. Yet because I question all sides I am accused of bias.
Time to leave you all to it. Not getting dragged into this Labour/Tory bullshit bias thing again.
David O'Day
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Astute
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I fully agree.
Liquid Gold
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Astute
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They are as bad as each other. Unless you want to defend one side and attack the other that is.No he's the logical centre ground guy that doesn't go for bias from either side
That's good, I just don't know why you're trying to make excuses for him by saying he didn't say it.
Liquid Gold
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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If this had been a member of a different party my opinion would be exactly the same. It's unacceptable and whoever did it should face severe reprimands for it.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yes
Astute
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Someone gets the point
But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
You said that it's not racist to say two people look alike.
I replied to say that's not what he said and you came back with 'did he actually say that or are you making that up?'
This is a strange hill to die on
Someone gets the point
But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
NO ONE SAID A HANDSHAKE MAKES UP FOR ANY COMMENT MADE
Liquid Gold
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Point out where someone said a handshake made up for a comment made.Someone gets the point
But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
Idiots paradise coming on here from the Sunderland board.
Astute
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What a load of bullshit from yourself as usual.
I asked if it was or not. You know..... as debate. Are we only allowed to say it about white people? Have you ever said yourself that two people look similar? We all have. The context needs to be looked at.
Then something else comes up. That's different. But the comment I first replied to was just two people looking similar. Is it allowed?