shmmeee
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Regulations make little difference to behaviour TBF. The science is clear on whether they work.
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Regulations make little difference to behaviour TBF. The science is clear on whether they work.
Marty
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Best case scenarios I guess? Wouldn't account for the amount of people who wear them incorrectly or ones that have been stuffed in pockets for days on end and worn multiple times etc.
Sick Boy
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Yeah that is going to have an impact; the FFP2 masks are only supposed to be worn for 8 hours before being changed.
shmmeee
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A bit of that though a lot of the research is real world case studies. It’s a scale isn’t it from shitty cheesecloth masks stuffed in pockets to full on N95s or whatever. Any mask is better than no mask, not all masks are equal sort of thing.
fernandopartridge
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I don't have an issue with the government ending the coronavirus restrictions, I think that's fine and it isn't reasonable to criminalise ordinary activities in the context of wide vaccine take up.
That said, the dropping of day 1 sick pay entitlement to discourage people covid +ve turning up to work is wrong.
That said, the dropping of day 1 sick pay entitlement to discourage people covid +ve turning up to work is wrong.
Blind-Faith
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So we should be more like the Germans and stay at home if we are sick?? In Germany statuary sick pay is 100% of your wage for 6 weeks, in this country it’s £97 a week if I’ve read it correctly for up to 28 weeks.
And then they wonder why people go to work when they are poorly , if you want us to act like the Germans start paying us like the Germans you bumbling clueless fucking buffoon
And then they wonder why people go to work when they are poorly , if you want us to act like the Germans start paying us like the Germans you bumbling clueless fucking buffoon
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Even Johnson himself said just yesterday we shouldn't throw caution to the wind on Covid. So what is ending all restrictions, especially the need to isolate after a positive test, if not throwing caution to the wind?
It's got nothing to do with the science and everything to do with keeping the nutters happy, because at the moment they're keeping him in his job.
skybluetony176
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So we should be more like the Germans and stay at home if we are sick?? In Germany statuary sick pay is 100% of your wage for 6 weeks, in this country it’s £97 a week if I’ve read it correctly for up to 28 weeks.
And then they wonder why people go to work when they are poorly , if you want us to act like the Germans start paying us like the Germans you bumbling clueless fucking buffoon
Even though I have kids every cold and illness I’ve had in about the last ten years I’ve caught at work. Always from the same person too. Unlike them though I have asthma so if I get a cold especially a chest cold it floors me and him not taking a couple of days off has landed me with a week off work in the past.
stupot07
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So we should be more like the Germans and stay at home if we are sick?? In Germany statuary sick pay is 100% of your wage for 6 weeks, in this country it’s £97 a week if I’ve read it correctly for up to 28 weeks.
And then they wonder why people go to work when they are poorly , if you want us to act like the Germans start paying us like the Germans you bumbling clueless fucking buffoon
You're right. SSP
Germany
100% of your wage first 6 weeks
50% of your wage for 84 weeks
UK
£96.35 per week for 28 weeks.
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Ian1779
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It’s not like there is anyone in Government with the intellect to see the connection between looking after your staff when they are poorly or in need and increased levels of productivity….So we should be more like the Germans and stay at home if we are sick?? In Germany statuary sick pay is 100% of your wage for 6 weeks, in this country it’s £97 a week if I’ve read it correctly for up to 28 weeks.
And then they wonder why people go to work when they are poorly , if you want us to act like the Germans start paying us like the Germans you bumbling clueless fucking buffoon
David O'Day
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Ending restrictions while infections are still high is fucking stupid and yes it was clear Witty and Vallance agree it is fucking stupid.
clint van damme
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So we should be more like the Germans and stay at home if we are sick?? In Germany statuary sick pay is 100% of your wage for 6 weeks, in this country it’s £97 a week if I’ve read it correctly for up to 28 weeks.
And then they wonder why people go to work when they are poorly , if you want us to act like the Germans start paying us like the Germans you bumbling clueless fucking buffoon
Their contempt for the working man is well documented.
Unfortunately we now have a Labour leader who appears to be cut from the same cloth.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But we all know the working man is lazy and you can't give them help or they'll bleed you dry. Tough love, that's what's needed! People perform at their best when they're desperate.
Just last week Steven Barclay, the new Head of Staff, said
Or, in layman's terms, cutting back services to let businesses have tax breaks. He even uses the term 'enabling', as if giving people less makes them more likely to succeed. If only they hadn't wasted billions giving their mates contracts for PPE that didn't work or a Test and Trace system that was a load of horseshit.
They're utter lunatics. If people who haven't earned their living should be given very little as it makes you a more productive person you'd think they'd be all for getting rid of the hereditary system and IHT...
Saddlebrains
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David O'Day
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when the infection rate is lower as per the bulk of scientific advise
At the moment it's the decision of an economically illiterate Chancellor to try and lower costs
Wyken Sky Blue
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What is the criteria to claim sick pay in Germany? If full for 6 weeks then there must be a stringent process to confirm you are actually sick rather than claiming to be from a sniffle or faking mental health issuesSo we should be more like the Germans and stay at home if we are sick?? In Germany statuary sick pay is 100% of your wage for 6 weeks, in this country it’s £97 a week if I’ve read it correctly for up to 28 weeks.
And then they wonder why people go to work when they are poorly , if you want us to act like the Germans start paying us like the Germans you bumbling clueless fucking buffoon
I can't help but feel people in the UK would wrongly take the piss. I agree it should be much higher than it is but you would want something in place to confirm one is actually sick
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They could’ve resigned if they thought it was that bad an idea ?! I honestly think they have brought into the main parts of the plan but obviously want people to remain vigilant and stay at home if they’re ill, ensure ONS sample testing continued and that testing could be ramped back up again if necessary
If those things have been secured I agree with most of the actions but not the end of SSP….although not sure how people will know if they’ve got covid if there’s no testing ?! Should’ve probably phased that out later even though you’d hope most employers will support employees anyway
There’s been plenty of people talking about the waste of money track, test and trace has been. I read it cost £2bn last month. Yet same people are now complaining about winding this down ?!
We’re ultimately removing not staying at home as a criminal act which is correct if it’s less dangerous for nearly everyone. LFTs (for what they’re worth) are still available for elderly, care settings etc and I read maybe £20 per box for everyone else. ONS surveillance is continuing.
Without coming out and stating it, I’d imagine the underlying strategy will be same as last summer ie let it circulate a bit more when immunity from severe illness is high and nhs is under less pressure. If you do this and everyone’s staying it home for a week when they’re not even ill it wouldn’t make sense. Only time will tell if it’s the correct strategy, last summers call to end restrictions, against massive opposition, was proven to be ok in the end and probably even helped us over the winter months
Edit - I’ll reserve right to alter view if numbers/hospitalisations are high end of next month when reduction in most measures start to kick in !
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fernandopartridge
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God, what a snide post
clint van damme
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Anti vaxxers on Earlsdon roundabout. Got a Canadian flag, twats.
David O'Day
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The things folk do when they get blanked from spoons
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Compulsory Covid jabs for care home staff scrapped
Regulations requiring care workers to be vaccinated against Covid are being lifted from mid-March in England.
www.bbc.co.uk
A U-turn to reach the correct decision....just a shame it cost about 35,000 people their jobs in the meantime.
Saddlebrains
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Amazing isnt it that Russia invade Ukraine and suddenly Covid doesnt exist 
chiefdave
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Yet you still can't visit anyone at UHCW and my Dad, who is in end of life care, can only have limited visits.Compulsory Covid jabs for care home staff scrapped
Regulations requiring care workers to be vaccinated against Covid are being lifted from mid-March in England.www.bbc.co.uk
robbiekeane
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remember covid lol
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Sick Boy
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Sorry to hear that mate, hope you’re doing ok.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Bit depressed about the war, so I thought I'd finish my dinner time reading by catching up on the old covid.....
...Turns out that despite the huge spike in cases in Dec & early January, Excess deaths in the UK remain negative so far in 2022.....
I know its a limited snapshot, but thats less people dying than would normally be expected in the same period before covidleaked out of the wuhan lab was a thing...
So some light at the end of a tunnel......lets just hope that light is not a nuclear meltdown.....
...Turns out that despite the huge spike in cases in Dec & early January, Excess deaths in the UK remain negative so far in 2022.....
I know its a limited snapshot, but thats less people dying than would normally be expected in the same period before covid
So some light at the end of a tunnel......lets just hope that light is not a nuclear meltdown.....
Sick Boy
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The 'state of emergency' is ending in Italy at the end of this month with most restrictions expected to be removed by Easter, hopefully. Goes to show that amazingly restrictions weren't part of some weird global agenda and were actually because of a pandemic.
Saddlebrains
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Amazing isn't it that it seemed to disappear as soon as the war started.
Shows just how much shit the media whip up
Shows just how much shit the media whip up
Sick Boy
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It’s not disappeared, there’s widespread immunity that’s been built up though which is helping to reduce restrictions.