Rishi’s wife (40 Viewers)

[rob9872]

You’re going to have to ask a coherent question first before I can give you an answer.

Yep, deflection as expected. You never disappoint, but keep shouting into the echo chamber.

 

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[duffer]

There are plenty of leave voters (many Labour not just nasty tories) who voted for more than immigration reasons. Also ... when I last checked, neither India or the USA were part of the EU, however as always I bow to your bollocks poundshop political agenda.

U OK hun?

'Poundshop political agenda' is a bit rich coming from someone who admits to doing a bit of low level trolling elsewhere on the thread.

Anyway, we know that for Tories anyway, Rishi's wife is the right kind of immigrant... rich, didn't arrive on a rubber boat, if only she'd paid her taxes, eh...

Tory MP says he wants the 'right' type of migrants, not ‘people in rubber boats’

A Tory MP has been criticised for asking why the UK can’t get the “right” sort of migrant instead of “people in rubber boats”. Addressing the prime minister during a Commons committee meeting, Sir Bill Wiggin yesterday asked why we can’t get “the right people” through the UK immigration system...

www.indy100.com

 

[chiefdave]

Beep beep beep, attention, this non dom is reversing, beep beep beep.

Rishi Sunak's wife to pay UK tax on overseas income

Akshata Murty has previously not paid UK tax on shares worth £700m in an Indian tech company.

www.bbc.co.uk

Do the people who tirelessly defend the government not get sick of this? This consistently happens, they spend days defending whatever the latest scandal is only for there then to be a u-turn.

 

[skybluetony176]

Yep, deflection as expected. You never disappoint, but keep shouting into the echo chamber.

Your question made zero sense. I don’t speak rambling mad man. Try asking it again in a coherent manner and I’ll do my best to answer it.

 

[skybluetony176]

Sounds like this story is about to resurface again too

Two of firms that Rishi Sunak's wife had shares in go bust

Akshata Murty owned shares in Lava Mayfair Club Limited, a private members club 'focusing on positive social change' that collapsed owing £43.7m to creditors, including £374,000 to HMRC.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[duffer]

There are plenty of leave voters (many Labour not just nasty tories) who voted for more than immigration reasons. Also ... when I last checked, neither India or the USA were part of the EU, however as always I bow to your bollocks poundshop political agenda.

Yep, some people voted for the 350m per week for the NHS.

Straight question, since you seem to like those again, was that a lie?

 

[rob9872]

Your question made zero sense. I don’t speak rambling mad man. Try asking it again in a coherent manner and I’ll do my best to answer it.

Nice try. We both know exactly what the question was, but you won't answer because you'll look a dick again. It's ok to admit you're wrong occasionally.

 

[wingy]

Well it wasn’t for trade, it wasn’t for farming, it wasn’t for a NHS windfall, it wasn’t for the fishing industry, it wasn’t to scrap VAT on energy, it wasn’t for cheaper food, it wasn’t for more rights, it wasn’t for better standards etc etc. There’s not much left as a reason to vote leave unless you’re willing to admit it’s a failed project.

Welcome to the disruptors landscape.

 

[skybluetony176]

Nice try. We both know exactly what the question was, but you won't answer because you'll look a dick again. It's ok to admit you're wrong occasionally.

So you won’t word the question in a coherent manner. Nice one. I suppose it’s easier than admitting brexit is a failed project or admit you’re a massive Xenophobe. Because at the end the day that’s the only two groups brexit voters can be split into. Those that admit they got it wrong or xenophobics. Only the latter should be happy brexit voters.

 

[rob9872]

Yep, some people voted for the 350m per week for the NHS.

Straight question, since you seem to like those again, was that a lie?

In my memory it was misquoted. I understood it to mean that there was a potential saving of £350m by exiting the U that COULD be used to things like fund the NHS. I've also not disputed Tony's argument about what has or hasn't worked, simply that it's such a lazy throwaway comment to suggest there was only one reason people voted that way. Largely it hasn't worked (yet) but as we know the world hasn't exactly been in a normal place for the past few years for varying reasons.

 

[rob9872]

So you won’t word the question in a coherent manner. Nice one. I suppose it’s easier than admitting brexit is a failed project or admit you’re a massive Xenophobe. Because at the end the day that’s the only two groups brexit voters can be split into. Those that admit they got it wrong or xenophobics. Only the latter should be happy brexit voters.

How dare you. You've never met me, I've not posted a single xenophobic post in over 10000 and I've not disputed it hasn't yet worked. You really are pathetic.

 

[skybluetony176]

How dare you. You've never met me, I've not posted a single xenophobic post in over 10000 and I've not disputed it hasn't yet worked. You really are pathetic.

I didn’t call you a xenophobe. Other than that bang on.

 

[skybluetony176]

In my memory it was misquoted. I understood it to mean that there was a potential saving of £350m by exiting the U that COULD be used to things like fund the NHS. I've also not disputed Tony's argument about what has or hasn't worked, simply that it's such a lazy throwaway comment to suggest there was only one reason people voted that way. Largely it hasn't worked (yet) but as we know the world hasn't exactly been in a normal place for the past few years for varying reasons.

We’re paying more NI to fund the NHS so what happened to the £350M?

 

[duffer]

Do the people who tirelessly defend the government not get sick of this? This consistently happens, they spend days defending whatever the latest scandal is only for there then to be a u-turn.

It's called cognitive dissonance. It's why they end up lying, deflecting, and generally looking a bit stupid.

They can't admit that the people they voted for are doing bad things, because by association that would make them bad people, or at least a bit daft. That's hard for people to face, so they just choose to accept and repeat any old bullshit they're fed rather than admit the truth.

We all know them, they're not generally bad people, but they've made their decision to be Tories and no amount of evidence is going to shift them.

With a few exceptions they often avoid talking about politics on open forums because at that point the low coherence of their rationality is exposed and they get embarrassed and angry.

Their only defence: it's an echo chamber.

Cognitive Dissonance and Ways to Resolve It

Cognitive dissonance happens when people hold conflicting beliefs. Learn the effects cognitive dissonance can have and how it can be resolved.

www.verywellmind.com

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[Grendel]

Yep, some people voted for the 350m per week for the NHS.

Straight question, since you seem to like those again, was that a lie?

No it was not a lie

 

[duffer]

In my memory it was misquoted. I understood it to mean that there was a potential saving of £350m by exiting the U that COULD be used to things like fund the NHS. I've also not disputed Tony's argument about what has or hasn't worked, simply that it's such a lazy throwaway comment to suggest there was only one reason people voted that way. Largely it hasn't worked (yet) but as we know the world hasn't exactly been in a normal place for the past few years for varying reasons.

Maybe I missed it, did the vote leave bus say 'could' fund the or "let's fund the NHS"?

Here's a neutral fact check on it. Are you prepared to admit that both the figure was a lie and the amount that's been sent to the NHS was a lie, or not?

FactCheck: The NHS funding boost is not a Brexit dividend

Theresa May says the extra cash she's promised for the NHS comes from a Brexit dividend. FactCheck investigates.

www.channel4.com

 

[rob9872]

Does it say we'll give all 350m to the NHS?

 

[duffer]

Does it say we'll give all 350m to the NHS?

Does it in any way suggest that it wouldn't?

Was the figure itself a lie? Does it clearly imply that it will be used to fund the NHS?

Cough up mate, I can see that you're struggling with this, I've given you a link to the evidence, read it.

 

[napolimp]

No it was not a lie

Yeah I agree. People have this strange definition of a lie, where if you say something you have no intention of doing then suddenly you're "dishonest" and "lying".

 

[shmmeee]

he’s committed fraud? Wow that is indeed serious. How has he committed fraud? As long as he kept them up to date and got a re-entry permit he should be fine, and even if not they would just relinquish is green card, not an offence and it’s not fraud.

What did he sign saying he will put America ahead of the UK? He isn’t a US citizen is he?

To have a green card you have to declare the US your main home and pledge to put it above all other countries.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I guess this must be the week that the Johnsons get their fine for partygate as this stinks of a diversion tactic as part of operation big twat or whatever he called it.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Does it say we'll give all 350m to the NHS?

lol

 

[skybluetony176]

I guess this must be the week that the Johnsons get their fine for partygate as this stinks of a diversion tactic as part of operation big twat or whatever he called it.

It’s just lucky that one senior MP had some sleaze on them to break for operation save big dog. God knows what they’ll do to next time Boris needs saving because looking at the cabinet Rishi aside they’re a fine collection of honest, dignified, professional, competent selection of the best of British. There’s literally no one left to throw under the bus to save Boris.

Being serious for a moment Rishi in all likelihood was probably the best of the cabinet. If they can throw him under the bus they’re all fucked. Rishi’s biggest problem was he was more popular than Boris, hence he was first in line for operation save big dog. Boris has nothing to fear from Nadine Dorries in way of a leadership contest. Truss will be next in line.

 

[Grendel]

To have a green card you have to declare the US your main home and pledge to put it above all other countries.

and if you don’t it gets removed doesn’t it?

 

[Grendel]

lol

There were several statements on tbe remain side that were less than honest and frankly there was plenty of opportunity to challenge and the difference between could and would

 

[PVA]

There were several statements on tbe remain side that were less than honest and frankly there was plenty of opportunity to challenge and the difference between could and would

Oh no not several statements!

How many were there on the leave side? Hundreds? Thousands?

 

[Grendel]

Oh no not several statements!

How many were there on the leave side? Hundreds? Thousands?

You tell me

Leave Lies? Remainers Need To Look In The Mirror

Recently, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, blamed the Brexit vote on 40 years of lies and the lies of 'Leave' campaigners. Juncker is correct in one sense, there were many lies during the EU Referendum campaign, however these lies were from the 'Remain' side. The so-called lies...

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[PVA]

Ah yes I'm sure that's a perfectly balanced article.

"Matthew Ellery is a Research Executive at Eurosceptic campaign group Get Britain Out."


Oh.

 

[Grendel]

Ah yes I'm sure that's a perfectly balanced article.

"Matthew Ellery is a Research Executive at Eurosceptic campaign group Get Britain Out."


Oh.

what in it isn’t correct? Was it an actual lie?

 

[PVA]

Also, did you even read it Grendel, or just the headline?

"George Osborne predicted tax rises and spending cuts would be implemented. To date, no changes to the planned tax rates or public spending have been implemented. So, another lie"

Really?

 

[PVA]

The article is 5 years old.

Pretty much everything in there that was apparently a remainer lie has since come to fruition

0/10, must do better.

 

[Grendel]

Also, did you even read it Grendel, or just the headline?

"George Osborne predicted tax rises and spending cuts would be implemented. To date, no changes to the planned tax rates or public spending have been implemented. So, another lie"

Really?

Yes as he predicted (actually said there would be) an emergency budget to increase taxes.

If you try and argue the NI tax rise is due to brexit (which actually is a cut for those earning under £30k good luck

Oh was this curiously exact figure - the response to tbe £350 million campaign true

Will each UK household be £4,300 worse off if the UK leaves the EU? | Brexit | The Guardian

Treasury analysis of Brexit implications includes claims about impact on growth and households, but do they stack up?

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Grendel]

The article is 5 years old.

Pretty much everything in there that was apparently a remainer lie has since come to fruition

0/10, must do better.

the nhs bus is 6 years old? We are talking about the campaign that happened then?

we.are.talking.about.the.campaign

 

[Deleted member 5849]

There were several statements on tbe remain side that were less than honest and frankly there was plenty of opportunity to challenge and the difference between could and would

I love sunny weather, therefore gothic architecture is bad.

 

[napolimp]

Yes as he predicted (actually said there would be) an emergency budget to increase taxes.

If you try and argue the NI tax rise is due to brexit (which actually is a cut for those earning under £30k good luck

Oh was this curiously exact figure - the response to tbe £350 million campaign true

Will each UK household be £4,300 worse off if the UK leaves the EU? | Brexit | The Guardian

Treasury analysis of Brexit implications includes claims about impact on growth and households, but do they stack up?

amp.theguardian.com

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