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I find it more enjoyable to be in the office, sometimes at least, but far less productive.
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Given the Coventrian seemed to live in a fortress / palace in finest Finham, I'd suggest car workers are at least compensated monetarily for the hassle. That's the best thing to do, pay people accordingly.
Grendel
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He made a lot of money on property development and he certainly didn’t live in a rubbish area like Finham
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He only needs to get a certain number of Astutes to see him as a man of the people, though
stupot07
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With over time, etc, the people I know who have worked in the factory at Jag have been paid extremely well. And they got paid for every hour they worked.
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Sick Boy
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Stop putting words in my mouth, I only speak the truth.
shmmeee
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Less traffic on the roads, cheaper housing in economic hotspots, increased spending around the country.
You can’t be pro levelling up and anti WFH.
Grendel
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I know you're a Tory apologist and contrarian, but towing the line of it not being allowed because it's unfair to 'working class' people is just utter bollocks.
As has been pointed out, there are many jobs that are white-collar that don't facilitate WFH. And if you wanted a solution who about extra remuneration for those disadvantaged - pay for travel time as if at work, paid travel expenses to work, higher pay grade for the inconvenience. But instead let's just disadvantage those people that are lucky enough to be able to work from home.
Then of course there's the point that supposedly the Tories are doing more to help the environment, so what better way to do it that get more vehicles and people travelling unnecessarily.
We've got a housing shortage with houses being unaffordable, so let's get rid of unneeded office space and get more homes built in their place. All the talk of lost revenue for things like cafes/shops for people getting lunch isn't true - it would just spread the spend out and benefit small businesses in local areas as those WFH spend that cash nearer their home.
The fact is the only people that really stand to benefit from people having to be in an office are those that own commercial property. And many of those are Tories and well connected.
It's an absolute bullshit excuse spun to try and fool people into thinking the Tories are looking out for the people and create a class war to take the focus of the real problem - their property owning mates.
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skybluetony176
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I’m not sure the gatemen were paid more. Although they did wear white collars.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Do you think it right that you, a white collar man, got more than those who actually built the cars? Did you give up an appropriate chunk of your salary?
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Food tsar backs PM's warning that WFH makes people raid the fridge
Henry Dimbleby said Britons were likely to load up on snacks 'unconsciously' if they were logged on in their kitchens.
clint van damme
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It's just one shameful ill informed comment after another regarding the cost of living crisis with no action to actually try and solve it.
Im at the point where I think it's that bad I'll probably vote for starmer.
skybluetony176
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Haven’t heard the interview yet but apparently Martin Lewis went ballistic on the radio this morning blaming not just the government but also the energy regulator for allowing energy cost to be artificially inflated.
Anyone hear him this morning who can shed some light on the specifics?
What do you mean they don't know how to solve it?
They've cracked it - just get a better job
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See, most of the time I avoid things like this, as it tends to be someone magnifying the bad things. But... I listened to it. And obviously I'm not the target market of that statement, but it beggars my belief that anybody with an ounce of empathy can vote for somebody who says that.
Priviliged shyster that she appears to be.
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skybluetony176
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So contrary to the advice from the good minister today the Governor of the Bank of England is discouraging people from earning more money because it will drive inflation. We are in a mess.
chiefdave
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Is there not a difference between inflation because people are going mad spending on luxuries and inflation because the cost of the essentials is going thought the roof? I appreciate the end result is the same but if people can't afford food, heating etc just telling them they don't need more money doesn't seem the answer.
Yeah, what Baileys probably struggling to communicate is he’s worried about wage price spiral - because of inflation, workers demand higher wages, employers then raise their prices to cover the higher wages and so we go on and on, pushing inflation higher and higher. I’m sure he wants people to earn enough to live though
To avoid this everyone needs to play fair, which includes petrol companies not doubling their profit per litre which is what’s happening at the moment….oh and clowns like Putin not causing gas, oil, wheat prices to spiral out of control by continuing a senseless war
Bailey (and the Fed and ECB) should’ve stopped printing money and started raising interest rates a lot earlier though, mayve helped
David O'Day
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Yeah he's talking about inflationary pressures pushing up the cost of living and thus pushing up inflation.
skybluetony176
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Looks like the BofE is getting it’s wish anyway.
Job vacancies outpace unemployment for first time
The unemployment rate falls to its lowest level for nearly 50 years between January and March.
www.bbc.co.uk
Looks like the BofE is getting it’s wish anyway.
Job vacancies outpace unemployment for first time
The unemployment rate falls to its lowest level for nearly 50 years between January and March.www.bbc.co.uk
I don’t think Bailey wants wages to drop, just not match/be near inflation for the reasons explained.
duffer
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The thing is though, that this is cost-push rather than demand-pull inflation. At the moment anyway, it's not driven by higher wage demands, it's driven by rising prices primarily because of Brexit impacts, and rising energy costs.
Raising interest rates is a bit of a blunt instrument for this kind of inflation, this isn't too much money chasing too few goods so taking cash out of people's pockets is (as usual) likely to hurt those with less and (strangely enough) lead to increased wage demands. Then we might move into demand-pull scenarios, I guess.
I'd suggest that what needs to happen is for the Government to get control of the energy sector - at the moment they're profiting hugely at the expense of the entire country.
Similarly, rather than adding costs to imported goods from our largest trading partner, the EU, with a completely ideological approach, we need to get back to the low friction 'oven ready' deal that apparently people voted for.
Like every recent economic crisis, the Tories will sell this as 'we all need to tighten our belts'. In reality though, the very rich (who of course fund the Tories), will continue to increase their wealth. If the pie gets smaller they'll just expect a bigger slice.
chiefdave
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But if he's worried about that how does raising interest rates help? People don't have enough money to cover the essentials, how does raising the cost of their mortgage do anything other than create more calls for wage increases, exactly what he says would be a problem.
I don’t disagree that nows probably the worst time to be raising rates (should’ve happened earlier), however, if there are inflationary elements tied to consumer spending, then they’ve got to at least try to suppress that a little and ideally get to the point where people (who can) might consider saving rather than spending/borrowing.
We’ve lived off QE and low rates for too long. Base rates at 1% and we’re struggling to get it higher without putting us in recession…that’s just crazy !
Edit - it’s a very fine balance now, not just for us/BoE but ECB and Fed, I don’t envy any of them but they have partially caused this issue to start with. I wonder if there’s other things at play here though like all of them trying to inflate away their post Covid gov debts.
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I agree that the current inflation pressures are mainly caused by things outside of our control now (started with excessive QE/low rates though - this has benefitted the richest/those with assets), however, he’s worried that if wages start matching inflation it will continue to spiral
Agree that the sensible thing would be for government to do things like pressuring petrol companies like BP/Shell to reduce costs at the pump to normal profit levels, if not threaten windfall tax. If BP/Shell etc reduce their prices others would have to follow. I’m sad enough to have even emailed the treasury/Sunak to suggest this a few weeks back
They should also help the poorest with UC uplift.
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