Israel - Palestinian Conflict (4 Viewers)
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Why does every lie on here involve a pretend cousin?
Grendel
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The Basildon Gazettes award winning journalist (he once reported on a Womens institute best snowdrop competition) reveals his best ever song on SBT
Brighton Sky Blue
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The Undertones, from Northern Ireland. A lot like our own Tone on here. It’s all neatly connected
Bloke comes on here every day telling increasingly wild stories about his sexual exploits and adolescent trauma and everyone respectfully takes it at face value, but claim to have a wife who’s Muslim and a cousin who’s gay and he’s furiously posting from the shed demanding to see the birth certificates!
I think we’ve derailed the thread enough, don’t you think? You can PM me if you’re that desperate for the evidence.
I think we’ve derailed the thread enough, don’t you think? You can PM me if you’re that desperate for the evidence.
Brighton Sky Blue
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In all seriousness, there’s no way I’m going to talk much more about family stuff in a public forum, so respectfully I’ll leave it there!
Sick Boy
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Grendel
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I also don’t see how it’s that wild. You seemed to have some view my drinking habits were somehow fantasy - I don’t know what kind of sheltered life you live but it’s really not that difficult to believe it’s that hard to do
I consume 100 plus units a week but even I’m not that drunk to make up the absurd shite you have about Muslim wives and gay cousins. Even of course if this was factual it’s still a diversion that only 18% of Muslims think gay marriage is acceptable in the UK
That’s the reality isn’t it
UH UH - I’ll give you the money myself
That’s fine! I chose to share a personal detail to shed light on why I react to certain posts in a certain way, just as you did talking about your own life recently. I’m sure people found your story unbelievable too, not that they banged on about it like you are.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Returning to the thread topic, even supposing that you’re right about Muslims in Palestine being as you describe, they don’t deserve to be bombed/shot/blockaded just on that basis. Life in Gaza for a civilian can’t be good or even that safe at the best of times.
Sky Blue Pete
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Hamas's attack and the events unfolding since yesterday are unspeakable. We are heartbroken to watch terrified civilians besieged in their homes, innocent people murdered in cold blood on the streets, at parties, and at home. Dozens taken hostage and dragged into the Gaza Strip. Every one of us knows someone who has been tragically affected. We could go on and on about their cruel and criminal actions, or focus on how our Jewish-supremacist government brought us to this point. But as hard as it is, our job as former Israeli soldiers is to talk about what we were sent to do.
Israel's security policy, for decades now, has been to “manage the conflict”. Successive Israeli governments insist on round after round of violence as if any of it will make a difference. They talk about “security”, “deterrence”, “changing the equation”.
All of these are code words for bombing the Gaza Strip to a pulp, always justified as targeting terrorists, yet always with heavy civilian casualties. In between these rounds of violence we make life impossible for Gazans, and then act surprised when it all boils over.
We talk about "normalization" with the UAE and now Saudi Arabia, while hoping the world will turn a blind eye to the open-air prison we built in our backyard. Apart from the unfathomable violation of human rights, we've created a massive security liability for our own citizens.
The question Israelis are all asking is - where were the soldiers yesterday? Why was the IDF seemingly absent while hundreds of Israelis were slaughtered in their homes and on the streets? The unfortunate truth is that they were “preoccupied”. In the West Bank.
We send soldiers to secure settler incursions into the Palestinian city of Nablus, to chase Palestinian children in Hebron, to protect settlers as they carry out pogroms. Settlers demand that Palestinian flags are removed from the streets of Huwara; soldiers are sent to do it.
Our country decided - decades ago - that it's willing to forfeit the security of its citizens in our towns and cities, in favor of maintaining control over an occupied civilian population of millions, all for the sake of a settler-messianic agenda.
The idea that we can "manage the conflict" without ever having to solve it is once again collapsing before our eyes. It held up until now because only few dared to challenge it. These heartbreaking events could change that. They must. For all of us between the river and the sea.
Israel's security policy, for decades now, has been to “manage the conflict”. Successive Israeli governments insist on round after round of violence as if any of it will make a difference. They talk about “security”, “deterrence”, “changing the equation”.
All of these are code words for bombing the Gaza Strip to a pulp, always justified as targeting terrorists, yet always with heavy civilian casualties. In between these rounds of violence we make life impossible for Gazans, and then act surprised when it all boils over.
We talk about "normalization" with the UAE and now Saudi Arabia, while hoping the world will turn a blind eye to the open-air prison we built in our backyard. Apart from the unfathomable violation of human rights, we've created a massive security liability for our own citizens.
The question Israelis are all asking is - where were the soldiers yesterday? Why was the IDF seemingly absent while hundreds of Israelis were slaughtered in their homes and on the streets? The unfortunate truth is that they were “preoccupied”. In the West Bank.
We send soldiers to secure settler incursions into the Palestinian city of Nablus, to chase Palestinian children in Hebron, to protect settlers as they carry out pogroms. Settlers demand that Palestinian flags are removed from the streets of Huwara; soldiers are sent to do it.
Our country decided - decades ago - that it's willing to forfeit the security of its citizens in our towns and cities, in favor of maintaining control over an occupied civilian population of millions, all for the sake of a settler-messianic agenda.
The idea that we can "manage the conflict" without ever having to solve it is once again collapsing before our eyes. It held up until now because only few dared to challenge it. These heartbreaking events could change that. They must. For all of us between the river and the sea.
Grendel
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look it’s a fair enough point and no one wants civilian deaths - on one hand in the Israel state the Palestinians look a minority but project that across the Middle East and that’s the Israel paranoia and they have to react to the brutality - it’s predictable and it’s inevitable
Brighton Sky Blue
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It has been initiated by Hamas this time, other times in the past the IDF has shelled children playing on the beach. None of it is defensible but you have two sides who refuse to recognise the rights of the other to exist. Which is why the US needs to use its considerable diplomatic weight with Israel and an equivalent with the Palestinians.
Grendel
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Nothing will change. Human shield hostages and bloody violence will follow. This will be worse than 1967 and there’s no solution likely
Grendel
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she’s stayed off twitter from what i see
clint van damme
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The Palestinian authority do recognise Israels right to exist, not working out great for them.
Israel want Palestine and Palestinians gone, and they'll succeed. And the US, the UK and the EU will be cheering them on. Its a disgrace.
Hamas have given them the perfect excuse, they dont give 2 fucks about their fellow countrymen and women.
clint van damme
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She's been quiet for a while.
clint van damme
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Just looked and seen a video, nor sure when it's from but she's expressing solidarity with the Palestian people, she doesn't mention the attacks, wouldn't be surprised if its an old video
Love right wing fuck wits tagging in Lee Anderson though, let's tag in one of the few MPs stupid enough for even Sultana to run rings round.
NortonSkyBlue
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It’s a totally predictable scenario. Saudi Arabia and Israel are finding common ground, the wider Islamic world feels threatened, Israeli hardliners are ready to “defend their land” The west rally round Israel but where it is different is that the Islamist world has the means and expertise to follow up these atrocities. It’s a shit show, escalation pending.
