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clint van damme
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They can't really say anything else in fairness.
David O'Day
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shock, from the folk who brought wmd and other such classics
Otis
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It's a shame you feel like that, mate, because you're usually a good poster
Grendel
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You have used too many words I don’t understand
Como
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Rishi Sunak says the UK has judged that the blast at Gaza's Al-Ahli hospital was likely caused by "a missile, or part of one" fired from "within Gaza".
The PM said the conclusion was based on the "deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts".
Media outlets, including the BBC, reported an initial Hamas statement blaming Israel for Tuesday's explosion.
Israel denied this shortly afterwards, saying that it was caused by a misfiring rocket from within Gaza.
Mr Sunak told the House of Commons: "On the basis of the deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts, the British government judges that the explosion was likely caused by a missile, or part of one, that was launched from within Gaza towards Israel."
Mr Sunak said that "misreporting" of the blast had had a "negative effect in the region".
"We need to learn the lessons and ensure that in future there is no rush to judgement," he said.
www.bbc.com
The PM said the conclusion was based on the "deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts".
Media outlets, including the BBC, reported an initial Hamas statement blaming Israel for Tuesday's explosion.
Israel denied this shortly afterwards, saying that it was caused by a misfiring rocket from within Gaza.
Mr Sunak told the House of Commons: "On the basis of the deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts, the British government judges that the explosion was likely caused by a missile, or part of one, that was launched from within Gaza towards Israel."
Mr Sunak said that "misreporting" of the blast had had a "negative effect in the region".
"We need to learn the lessons and ensure that in future there is no rush to judgement," he said.
Rishi Sunak says Al-Ahli hospital blast likely caused by missile from Gaza
The PM says UK concludes that blast at Al-Ahli hospital was caused by a missile fired from within territory.
www.bbc.com
clint van damme
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Rishi Sunak says the UK has judged that the blast at Gaza's Al-Ahli hospital was likely caused by "a missile, or part of one" fired from "within Gaza".
The PM said the conclusion was based on the "deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts".
Media outlets, including the BBC, reported an initial Hamas statement blaming Israel for Tuesday's explosion.
Israel denied this shortly afterwards, saying that it was caused by a misfiring rocket from within Gaza.
Mr Sunak told the House of Commons: "On the basis of the deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts, the British government judges that the explosion was likely caused by a missile, or part of one, that was launched from within Gaza towards Israel."
Mr Sunak said that "misreporting" of the blast had had a "negative effect in the region".
"We need to learn the lessons and ensure that in future there is no rush to judgement," he said.
Rishi Sunak says Al-Ahli hospital blast likely caused by missile from Gaza
The PM says UK concludes that blast at Al-Ahli hospital was caused by a missile fired from within territory.
Was then rush to judgment comment aimed at the Israelis given this was their 4th or 5th explanation for what happened including a retracted admission?
tisza
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Interesting perspective. Does highlight Netanyahu's political "dilemma" where his govt is reliant on the support of several ultra-nationalist/right wing parties. This reliance does make it seem rational, constructive peace talks (other than from a position of Israeli dominance) are highly unlikely.
clint van damme
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Most populists are in the same boat, they can't row back on their extreme rhetoric or their supporters will have them out on their ear.
Though I think Netanyahu has a real issue given the size of the protests against him earlier in the year albeit that was related to domestic issues.
Otis
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If it is indeed true, we need to hear it from somewhere else, not from a government who can't be trusted to tell the truth on anything.Rishi Sunak says the UK has judged that the blast at Gaza's Al-Ahli hospital was likely caused by "a missile, or part of one" fired from "within Gaza".
The PM said the conclusion was based on the "deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts".
Media outlets, including the BBC, reported an initial Hamas statement blaming Israel for Tuesday's explosion.
Israel denied this shortly afterwards, saying that it was caused by a misfiring rocket from within Gaza.
Mr Sunak told the House of Commons: "On the basis of the deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts, the British government judges that the explosion was likely caused by a missile, or part of one, that was launched from within Gaza towards Israel."
Mr Sunak said that "misreporting" of the blast had had a "negative effect in the region".
"We need to learn the lessons and ensure that in future there is no rush to judgement," he said.
Rishi Sunak says Al-Ahli hospital blast likely caused by missile from Gaza
The PM says UK concludes that blast at Al-Ahli hospital was caused by a missile fired from within territory.
duffer
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Rishi Sunak says the UK has judged that the blast at Gaza's Al-Ahli hospital was likely caused by "a missile, or part of one" fired from "within Gaza".
The PM said the conclusion was based on the "deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts".
Media outlets, including the BBC, reported an initial Hamas statement blaming Israel for Tuesday's explosion.
Israel denied this shortly afterwards, saying that it was caused by a misfiring rocket from within Gaza.
Mr Sunak told the House of Commons: "On the basis of the deep knowledge and analysis of our intelligence and weapons experts, the British government judges that the explosion was likely caused by a missile, or part of one, that was launched from within Gaza towards Israel."
Mr Sunak said that "misreporting" of the blast had had a "negative effect in the region".
"We need to learn the lessons and ensure that in future there is no rush to judgement," he said.
Rishi Sunak says Al-Ahli hospital blast likely caused by missile from Gaza
The PM says UK concludes that blast at Al-Ahli hospital was caused by a missile fired from within territory.
Right, yes.
Because other than this potentially misreported incident, and the cutting off of food, fuel, water, and medical supplies, and the bombing of the supposedly safe area Israel has demanded civilians move to, and the destruction of one of the oldest Christian churches in civilisation, and the death of one child every 15 minutes (Save The Children charity's report, see below) , I can't see that Israel has done anything wrong in Gaza.
That bloody misreporting eh, having a negative effect on the region.
Save the Children calls for a ceasefire in Gaza as casualties soar
More than 1,000 children have reportedly been killed in 11 days of airstrikes on Gaza, with children making up a third of total fatalities.
skybluetony176
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Just heard on the radio that Hamas has offered to return all the hostages if Israel agrees to stop the bombing. Israel has vowed to keep on bombing. You would have thought that securing the return of the hostages would have been Israel’s number one priority.
shmmeee
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The ever trustworthy Hamas.
They’d be nuts to give the hostages over anyway, must by the only thing between them and a glass car park.
shmmeee
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It’s the most likely answer. Even the evidence against it doesn’t actually contradict it. I suspect Israel made a fake call cos that’s their MO but didn’t need to. Israel’s PR efforts have been fucking awful TBF.
Grendel
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Is this the interview on Sky when in the same interview it was claimed Hamas did not intend to kill anyone when they invaded and any death was unintentional as Hamas don’t intend to kill anyone?
clint van damme
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They're pushing 2 narratives, some story about the IDF killing them in the crossfire and one about something called operation hanibal where the Israelis deliberately kill Israeli hostages, utter bollocks.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Estimated 1.4 million homeless in Gaza now & over 5000 dead.....the vast majority of which are innocent civilians....
....Its a good job Israel have world class intelligence & military capabilities so they can continue to hit their targets with pin-point precision eh....
....Its a good job Israel have world class intelligence & military capabilities so they can continue to hit their targets with pin-point precision eh....
skybluetony176
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Don’t know the origins of the comment. As I said in my original post, I heard it on the radio. You would think it’s worth a go though if your number one priority was the return of your people currently being held hostage.
tisza
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Is it Netanyahu's number one priority?
Grendel
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Even from someone who says that Hamas didn’t deliberately kill a single Israeli in the raid?
skybluetony176
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I don’t think there’s many people who believe that.
tisza
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Exactly so freeing the hostages on Hamas's terms isn't of interest to Netanyahu (other Israelis may feel differently). Might not even be possible without the support of his hardline coalition partners - which he is unlikely atm to get
Otis
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And this is the tragedy of it all.
These 1.4 million homeless aren't all Hamas are they.
Hamas are utter scum for the atrocity they carried out and now Israeli forces are carrying out their own awful acts.
Not going to end well this is it. Just going to get a lot more Palestinians and others in the middle east, hating Israel even more and taking up to arms and terrorism.
If they do "wipe out Hamas" as they have suggested, all they are going to do is create a Hamas Mark II.
David O'Day
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the deaths of innocent people is sadly a great recruiting tool for hamas.
tisza
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not just for Hamas but other fundamentalist groups throughout Middle East & Africa
SkyBlueMatt
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It will be impossible to wipe out Hamas. Maybe the name but that will be it.
For the Palestinians who hate Hamas and want peace. Now your home has been destroyed, your business, you have lost your daughter/son/sister/brother/etc. Knowing that international law doesn't apply to Israel and nothing will be done about your loss. Someone comes to you an offers a chance of revenge?
duffer
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And for other fundamentalists across the globe, including in our own country.
If our governments (rightly) decry Islamic fundamentalist terrorism but then stand by whilst Israel kills thousands of Muslims, including women and children, seemingly indiscriminately, then it's not a difficult sell to those who might already be on the cusp of radicalisation.
This makes the whole world a more dangerous place, imho.
Otis
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Totally agree
skybluetony176
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And the rest of the world.
skybluetony176
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Or you’re a teenager or young man just being brought up with absolutely no hope whatsoever. It’s how the IRA were so successful in the troubles. No hope, no prospects, high unemployment rate. It was a breeding ground for extremism.
NortonSkyBlue
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But...nobody raised too much fuss about the Ugyhurs in China.
There seems to be little will to find solutions to the issues in this world until blood is spilt And then only if affects the interests of certain countries. I do wonder what the United Nations does?
skybluetony176
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Yes. Not sure why you’re finding this so difficult. Agree a return of the hostages in exchange for an end to bombing. If the hostages get returned, great. If they don’t, carry on as before. Israel really has nothing to lose. Are you seriously suggesting that Israeli shouldn’t try to save the hostages? Do you have a blood lust or something?
Here’s a known known for you. Hamas has released a very small number of hostages. The known known means a return of all hostages is a possibility. Might be a small possibility but for the sake of protecting your citizens it’s worth trying. There’s no point saying you have the right to protect yourself if you’re willing to overlook this chance.
skybluetony176
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TBF we have zero influence over China. Israel on the other hand rely on the West.