fantastic news at least the world class facility is being used but sorry we need a Coventry team playing in Coventry.surely time for a phoenix club started by fans representing are proud city. Coventry city have made it clear many many times there not coming back so is it time to start again. Coventry city no home no strikers no money no future R I P Coventry city . they do have a empty stadium and the magic golden share so we might be alright .
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you know full well the costs when you arn't needing to open 4 stands and clean up after ten k people are not remotely comparable. You are just being an ass for no reason.
Skyblueweeman
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I wonder if they'll get to keep the much vaunted match day F+B revenues?
***Weeman sits back and waits for the first bite***
***Weeman sits back and waits for the first bite***
Otis
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Sorry, but this is just a joke.
Fine to let a team play at the Ricoh, but if someone is getting to play on it for next to nothing then surely a local Coventry team such as Coventry United or Sphinx would be the way to go. Why some youth team from a completely different county?
It's daft at best and at worst, very embarrassing.
Doesn't this just state the obvious that the Ricoh is available for next to nothing and if that's the case, Coventry City should be playing there.
Fine to let a team play at the Ricoh, but if someone is getting to play on it for next to nothing then surely a local Coventry team such as Coventry United or Sphinx would be the way to go. Why some youth team from a completely different county?
It's daft at best and at worst, very embarrassing.
Doesn't this just state the obvious that the Ricoh is available for next to nothing and if that's the case, Coventry City should be playing there.
bigfatronssba
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Unless you've got something to back that statement up then we'll just assume your talking bullshit again shall we?
I didn't say you were, but there is criticism for the ricoh from you, for stealing this academy, if there is indeed an issue with playing at the ricoh for this academy the problem is with footballcv, not the ricoh. It's also the case that this is a residential academy and so there is obviously going to be no issues with the kids getting to games, they will be bussed there from the accommodation.
I'm positive that sisu do not beilive building a new stadium is best for ccfc but thats completely irrelevent to chosing to play in northampton, we all agree the club should own their own stadium, everyone of us, the smart way to do that was to buy acl.
It's a residential academy, I would expect the parents to be excited for their kids to play at an amazing stadium but otherwise not really care at all.
Grendel
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Who is paying for floodlights, pitch maintenance, heating, initial preparation to get it ready, health and safety checks, hot water, cleaning the changing rooms? The tooth fairy?
It looks to me like this academy is a business, they are presumably paying to play at the ricoh in order to get them more exposure, to attract better players and ultimately make themselves more money. Some local team gets little benefit from doing this so wouldn't pay enough. I doubt this is acl being charitable, its presumably a business decision.
chiefdave
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That's all well and good but have either of those teams expressed a desire to play there and if they have is there anything to suggest they have approached ACL and been told it's not possible?
I think it's great a young acadamy are let to play at the Ricoh. What better place to attract scouts to come and have a good time?
The economy is irrelevant - even if they are having the place for free.
The important thing is it won't block for a return of the club should a miracle happen.
chiefdave
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They also do their training at St George's Park, who pays for that? Unless you're suggesting ACL are making a loss on this then who cares.
RoboCCFC90
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I can understand the appeal from the academy, but what happens if CCFC move back to the Ricoh, think CCFC will be happy with another team sticking around as well?
As we agreed earlier in the week, but as I said before do you think if CCFC do that they're going to want to keep a Club that pays next to no money to be there and use the facilities?
bigfatronssba
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The academy.
You really think acl would pay to let them play there? Haha
I think your hatred is causing you to lose touch with reality.
acl, though floodlights wont be used for this, most of the other costs though they keep having to pay whatever to keep the facility going, so getting someone in to use it is obviously sensible, the actual increased costs from letting kids play there a few times is very little and presumably they are being paid more than the costs, so sensible business, not in the slightest bit controversial unless you have an axe to grind.
bigfatronssba
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Tough shit on Ccfc to be honest.
If they wanted exclusivity on the Ricoh they shouldn't have left.
RoboCCFC90
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They should have never built the fucking thing either.
While we are at it, ACL shouldn't have charged an extortionate rent to CCFC.
if ccfc come back and if acl continue to have other games there during the week and if this negatively affects ccfc (ie the pitch suffers) then I'll criticize acl for it. Until then good for them to do everything they can to stay profitable.
bigfatronssba
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And Ccfc shouldn't have signed the rental agreement should they?
Acl are a business, and I thought you were concerned about the negative impact of Ccfc leaving on the local economy. Now acl has done something to go towards helping the local economy and your still not happy.
Make up your mind.
Grendel
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How can losing money by making the ground available to an organisation with virtually zero fans be helping the economy?
Keep digging.
duffer
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I'm sorry, remind me, how much money are we as taxpayers putting in ACL at the moment?
And tell me again how much money Coventry City Council made from the CCFC "cash cow"?
(... tumbleweed)
Once again that you're pretty quick to spout off this rubbish, but very slow to answer questions that don't suit you.
Fwiw as a taxpayer, I'm delighted if ACL make enough money to survive using whatever means they see fit. At least, that is, until the club return. At that point, I'd expect CCFC to have first call on the pitch - as indeed they do, right now, should they choose to come back.
RoboCCFC90
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I am sure all the locals pubs will be profitting from all the bottles of Panda Pops that they'd sell.. :claping hands:
Time to fight these clowns
fantastic news world class arena finnally being used . but not a Coventry team. got to be time for a phoenix club . Coventry team started by the fans for the fans Coventry city is dead sisu said they will never return to the area (sorry new stadium i forgot about that) surely its time to start again and fight these clowns what have ccfc got no strikers no home no money no future but they do have an empty stadium and the magic golden share.
TIME TO FIGHT LETS GET A COVENTRY TEAM BACK HOME THE FANS WILL BE UNITED . r i p CCFC
fantastic news world class arena finnally being used . but not a Coventry team. got to be time for a phoenix club . Coventry team started by the fans for the fans Coventry city is dead sisu said they will never return to the area (sorry new stadium i forgot about that) surely its time to start again and fight these clowns what have ccfc got no strikers no home no money no future but they do have an empty stadium and the magic golden share.
TIME TO FIGHT LETS GET A COVENTRY TEAM BACK HOME THE FANS WILL BE UNITED . r i p CCFC
M&B Stand
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The pubs of Foleshill will be rubbing their hands together at this news.
bigfatronssba
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Are you really so deluded to think acl would be losing money on this?
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Your so dumb its unbelievable!
duffer
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CCFC never did build the thing, there's the problem.
But if they had, they'd had have to have found a lot more than £1.2m a year to finance it.
(Edit: There's a lot of "have's" and "hads" in that last sentence, but I think you get the idea)
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bigfatronssba
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Acl are part of the local economy and they will be making money out of this.
diggerdaley
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How can ACL say no if somebody wants to hire the facilities,what should they say if an enquiry is made "F**k off CCFC might come back"that boat has sailed.
shmmeee
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Because "the economy" isn't just about hard cash pulled in. Encouraging involvement in sport has numerous social benefits.
RoboCCFC90
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Must be about £1 a Panda Pop nowadays they'll be milking in it daily.
It's because he is misrepresenting it, the money lost by looking after the pitch is happening whatever, the extra costs from these people playing here will almost certainly be significantly less than they are paying acl.
So while the total costs to look after the pitch are probably higher than the academy are paying that does not mean as grendel says that the stadium lose out by having them here.
Anyway im off for dinner.
shmmeee
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CCFC never did build the thing, there's the problem.
But if they had, they'd had have to have found a lot more than £1.2m a year to finance it.
(Edit: There's a lot of "have's" and "hads" in that last sentence, but I think you get the idea)
This needs to be stated more often.
The Gentleman
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Have you any idea of how to run a business? If you were involved with ACL, would you jut sit around waiting for Sisu to sort themselves out which could take years or even worse Sisu build a new stadium, would you turn away someone who wanted to rent part of your business? doesn't make good business sense to take your attitude does it. One final thing, what a stupid remark you came out with "is that the best you can do ACL". What did you expect them to do? announce that they have a PL league team moving there. This is a start and shows that ACL are in fact doing what Sisu claim they are doing. How do you know what the financial agreement is for this new team, if they are indeed wealthy then does it not make sense?
RoboCCFC90
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Lets get something crystal clear, I wouldn't want to be involved with ACL, Sisu, CCC or anyone else in this sorry mess.
Secondly whereas it might benefit these kids and everything is great and I respect them for making the most out of a bad situation, however do you think this Academy is going to really bring in the cash for ACL? Sorry I don't see it..
torchomatic
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Seriously? How much are they charging this non-league team in order to make a profit? Either the team are very well off and can afford the charges or ACL are selling themselves short. I fully expect them to try and install a new franchise, but really this is laughable. They could have approached Sphinx and at least be guaranteed some local support.
I wonder if this is part of the golden future Lucas had in mind.
I wonder if this is part of the golden future Lucas had in mind.
bigfatronssba
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Can I just ask, why either of you think ACL (a private ltd company), would effectively pay an academy to use their facilities?