Match Thread Cardiff City - Coventry City Match Thread - Wednesday 1st Jan (2 Viewers)

[Mucca Mad Boys]

That's goes back to the club and King not having a vision, look at Brighton, they lose a manager and then they bring someone in who fits the mould and plays a similar way with what fits in with the squad. There's continuity. Swansea did it too a few years ago.

We've brought Frank in who has just failed at his last two jobs and wants to play possession based football, when we don't have the players to do it. Wright and EMC are misses, but even with them, we don't have the players to play the way he wants. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, we are a really good counter attacking side, yet Robins and now Lampard wants to play slow possession based football.

We can’t play counter attacking football if we concede the first goal of the game 60% of the time. This is the fundamental issue facing this team because the team that scores first, often wins (or at least not lose). Today is a great example, 1-0 down after 5 minutes! We do ourselves no favours.

I don’t think there’s that much separating MR and FL’s vision for the team and style of play. I still believe that 2-3 good signings really elevates us. A marshalling defender and a midfielder with Hamer’s profile is what we need.

Lampard was the best candidate for the job and has brought in coaches much better than what we’d bring in otherwise. We do have a vision for the squad and playing style but these things take time.

 

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[pusbccfc]

we beat boro 3 nil with 10 so they can

That's true although they were dominant for large periods of that game even with 10 men. Cardiff were a lot more negative. Boro left themselves open.

 

[Nick]

Agreed but likewise I'd be very surprised if King has told him he can overhaul the entire squad like some are claiming is needed.

I'm not sure about entire squad. I think we need a decent spine and somebody with a bit of bottle though.

 

[Nick]

Just to be clear about the Asante chance, either him or Simms were off weren't they so it wouldnt of counted.
Not that he knew that and still should gave buried it.

Were they?

 

[fernandopartridge]

we beat boro 3 nil with 10 so they can

No, apparently that didn't count because it's piss easy to beat a team with ten

 

[Sick Boy]

One thing sacking Robins has done is divide the forum. I actually like most people on here but its all been a bit painful since.

It’s been much worse than this before. Eventually it’ll blow over.

 

[clint van damme]

Were they?

The comms said so but it looks like they may be wrong.
Hopefully they're not because it makes me feel a hit better about it knowing it wouldn't have counted.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Cheer up guys we've got Norwich away to look forward to on Saturday, what could possibly go wrong.

 

[pusbccfc]

Little bit of chatter in the away end about Thomas is off.

After the game he spent an awful long time clapping the fans although he looked like he was apologising.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Little bit of chatter in the away end about Thomas is off.

After the game he spent an awful long time clapping the fans although he looked like he was apologising.

Getting rid of the only centre back who Lampard seems to like would be odd.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Little bit of chatter in the away end about Thomas is off.

After the game he spent an awful long time clapping the fans although he looked like he was apologising.

Realistically, where's he going?

 

[fatso]

Same as any manager? A bit of motivation. A bit of tactical nous. A clear plan and system for the players to follow. It’s not Fantasy Football where you just pick XI players and hope for the best.

And we haven’t moved away from shit. We’re in the exact position we were when robins was sacked. Only ten games later.

He's done exactly that, he's identified where we are weak, he's dropped Collins, Dasilva and Binks, and we've only conceded 1 goal in the last 3 games. I'd say the defence is looking much better. (Today's goal was down to a midfield error)

People were calling for Simms to start, and he gave him that start, but there's a lack of quality, experienced options available, we have plenty of numbers, but limited quality!

The problem he has is that he doesn't have the players available to drop Sheaf, or MvE or Eccles or Sakamoto, hence the need to give him transfer windows to address things.
In the meantime we'll have to be patient. (Again)

 

[pusbccfc]

Realistically, where's he going?

That's exactly what I thought.

 

[Nick]

Little bit of chatter in the away end about Thomas is off.

After the game he spent an awful long time clapping the fans although he looked like he was apologising.

I can't see where he would go though? He's not premier League and he's not been bombed out with us. I could totally get kitching but not sure what move Thomas would get.

 

[pusbccfc]

Getting rid of the only centre back who Lampard seems to like would be odd.

Depends if there's any takers willing to pay money.

 

[Nick]

Realistically, where's he going?

Beat me to it.

 

[ccfc922]

The ref spent another minute booking him and getting the ball back. Then didn't add it on anyway.

So he would have been better off just letting play go on

Keeper was clever to be fair, dragged out until he was about to booked and booted the ball away, causing more wasted time.

Ref was a wet wipe. Lati should have been booked for getting in the refs face. Think it was him anyway.

 

[Great_Expectations]

It's so obvious . But they are so deluded they actually think they have no axe to grind

Who? If you really believe people on here want Lampard to fail. Call it out.

 

[covcity4life]

Who? If you really believe people on here want Lampard to fail. Call it out.

Paxman. Fernando. Ccfckssparks

Are a few others but can't remember usernames right now

 

[2024/25 League 1 Champs?]

Realistically, where's he going?

.. Stoke!

 

[Para1140]

Did you make it to Arnhem 80 btw?

Yes mate went with Ledger and very good. My great uncle was at Arnhem and was nice to go and remember

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Who? If you really believe people on here want Lampard to fail. Call it out.

Nobody wants Lampard to fail, he’s talking out of his backside and he knows it.

When a guy has been brought in on the pretext of being an elite tactician & to follow on from our most successful manager in decades, it’s human nature that comparisons will be made, and Lampard has big shoes to fill. However there is a huge difference between commenting on a manager’s performance and “wanting him to fail”- which is something that seems lost on large swathes of this place.

 

[Grendel]

Paxman. Fernando. Ccfckssparks

Are a few others but can't remember usernames right now

PVA

 

[covmark]

Paxman. Fernando. Ccfckssparks

Are a few others but can't remember usernames right now

Disagree on Fernando tbf

 

[Evo1883]

nobody wants lampard to fail ffs , atleast not genuinely otherwise they wouldnt be fans

 

[Grendel]

Nobody wants Lampard to fail, he’s talking out of his backside and he knows it.

When a guy has been brought in on the pretext of being an elite tactician & to follow on from our most successful manager in decades, it’s human nature that comparisons will be made, and Lampard has big shoes to fill. However there is a huge difference between commenting on a manager’s performance and “wanting him to fail”- which is something that seems lost on large swathes of this place.

The vast majority of fans aren’t actually making comparisons - just a few on a football forum including - with respect - those who wouldn’t even go if we appointed Slot

 

[Ccfcisparks]

nobody wants lampard to fail ffs , atleast not genuinely otherwise they wouldnt be fans

I’ve given lampard praise when due and criticism when due.

it’s insulting to even suggest I want our team to fail

 

[shmmeee]

All getting a bit Brexit this.

 

[PVA]

PVA

 

[PVA]

I’ve given lampard praise when due and criticism when due.

it’s insulting to even suggest I want our team to fail

This. It's ridiculous.

 

[SBT]

Nothing as of yet.

However he is our manager. He deserves the respect of the fans for trying to salvage something from this squad, and he deserves two transfer windows to put it right

I think my expectations are higher than yours. This should be about getting value for money out of an underperforming squad, not a salvage operation.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Couldn’t make it today so had to watch it on Sky. Even their commentary team kept asking why we keep playing it sideways and backwards
Kept saying,what’s wrong with Coventry they won’t go forward.

Could it be there frightened to give the ball away, which they do anyway.

 

[covcity4life]

All getting a bit Brexit this.

That's true Nigel

 

[Adge]

Eccles mistake but we have numerous chances to stop that goal as it was 80 yards forward next to their penalty area.
Just on the subject of the “weak and poor” midfield-like people’s opinion if they still think Eccles is the best midfielder and is having a great season still?

 

[RegTheDonk]

Not desperate at all for Lampard to fail. Was impressed with his words when he first came in.

how anyone can say this is much better or an improvement is beyond me.

Weve played poor opposition, lost 4-1 to the team that were bottom and drew with a team that had 10 men for a half.

Statistically I think we're slightly better, but just looking at the performances, there doesn't seem to be any more "umph", urgency, passion. Other than EMC there doesn't seem to be much individual improvment under the new manager or his back room team.

We don't know what was agreed with King and Lamps prior to his appointment so we have to see if King will allow him to bring in some fresh faces. Lots on here have repeatedly said we need strengthening/competiton in certain areas. With that in mind, we should give the new man the opportunity to do this and see if he's able to use his name/talent to spot, recruit and develop accordingly. After all, Rome wasn't built in a day, it took years and lots of in and outs for the last bloke to turn it around.