The most patronising thing I’ve heard from any mp in the last few years is Rees-Mogg going on about Brexit putting shoes on feet as if we should be grateful for the basic necessity of shoes, not that it was ever an issue pre Brexit.
No I was quoting him as an example of someone you’d expect to be a labour voter and what would a vote for labour do to enhance his quality of life and oddly no one has yet answered
No I was quoting him as an example of someone you’d expect to be a labour voter and what would a vote for labour do to enhance his quality of life and oddly no one has yet answered
Did you see the thing from when he was first campaigning to become an MP and people were laughing at him because he'd taken his nanny with him. His response being "I don't know why they're laughing - if it'd been my valet they'd have considered it perfectly normal"
really? His nanny?
Because you definitely don't see the likes of Johnson, JRM, Cameron etc. thinking they're superior to 'ordinary' folk and know what's best for them? But they patronise them in a plummy accent so that's fine.
I would perhaps argue (maybe naively) that as someone who clearly has massive chips on both shoulders about foreigners, immigrants, young people and indeed anyone he sees as different to himself, that any attempt to pigeonhole him as ‘typical labour’ is somewhat misguided
Not just his nanny but the family one.
No I was quoting him as an example of someone you’d expect to be a labour voter and what would a vote for labour do to enhance his quality of life and oddly no one has yet answered
that’s brilliant, I never knew that
No you asked what would Labour do to help his aspirations to be monetarily rich? I answered about what they'd do to enhance quality of life with things like healthcare and public services alongside many other things that improve quality of life, but they difficult to put a monetary value so obviously are worthless in your mind, when in reality a lot of them are priceless.
There is zero evidence they would
People generally put policies first that impact their own lives and basic securities - most only see interested in politics bear elections. They have little real interest in policies and generally have little faith politicians will deliver them anyway - again you are trying to bring people up to what you believe are superior behaviours
Most wont and don’t
There is zero evidence they would
People generally put policies first that impact their own lives and basic securities - most only see interested in politics bear elections. They have little real interest in policies and generally have little faith politicians will deliver them anyway - again you are trying to bring people up to what you believe are superior behaviours
Most wont and don’t
It’s fine as they are politicians who want people to vote for them.
The conservatives win elections because they have strategies to win them whereas labour other than Blair who was excellent at it don’t
Labour is obsessed with its members. Members of parties are not the general public
so what you’re saying is that because politicians are so bad people just try to protect themselves by voting for whoever they perceive as doing more ‘for them’, because they feel that a vote for the ‘greater good’ is just a waste of time.
Isn’t that kind of the point? That too many people have been indoctrinated, socialised, educated and basically steamrollered into believing that striving to have more than your neighbour is the ultimate life goal?
I am not saying your views are wrong, rather that they are underpinned by everything that you are told to think by certain political factions. Look at the media- we lost all sense of balance a long time ago- either main party could advocate killing baby seals at 5pm every day and their media supporters would justify it. There’s no balance anywhere, just lies
There is zero evidence they would
People generally put policies first that impact their own lives and basic securities - most only see interested in politics bear elections. They have little real interest in policies and generally have little faith politicians will deliver them anyway - again you are trying to bring people up to what you believe are superior behaviours
Most wont and don’t
Interesting this.You can buy a house not too far from me for less than 40k. But people still rent. Why is this?
How about what would happen if these landlords didn't buy properties to rent out. Where would those who can't buy live?
No I’m saying the labour strategy is wrong. You see it on here - the membership are trying to force concepts down the wider publics throat and then blame everyone else for when it all falls over - it’s laughable
It was the easiest campaign for the Tories to win
Any business would look at the most successful period in its history as ways to recover - not try and airbrush then from history
Great, but he's a bellend with no real skills and a decent but not really amazing salaryHe still earns more than me I think
Any business would look at the most successful period in its history as ways to recover - not try and airbrush then from history
So in two sentences you say "people generally put policies first that impact their own lives and securities" then a few words later "they have little real interest in policies".
I think you're right on the latter sentence. They don't. As I've already said it's soundbites and slogans. If they put policies that impact their own lives and securities they wouldn't be voting for a party that consistently reduces funding to things like healthcare and police.
But thanks for agreeing that I'm trying to bring people UP to superior behaviours rather DOWN to their most base selfish ones.
Interesting this.
Talking to one of my brothers and some friends in UK (1 in Brum, rest in London) who have seriously realized how much work can be done from home and are looking at the merits of relocating (particularly northwards) due to the cost of housing (and the rent/mortgages they are currently paying).
Grenners is comedy gold.So I guess things like the tea and cotton industries should look to bring back slavery then?
So I guess things like the tea and cotton industries should look to bring back slavery then?
Interesting this.
Talking to one of my brothers and some friends in UK (1 in Brum, rest in London) who have seriously realized how much work can be done from home and are looking at the merits of relocating (particularly northwards) due to the cost of housing (and the rent/mortgages they are currently paying).
So in two sentences you say "people generally put policies first that impact their own lives and securities" then a few words later "they have little real interest in policies".
I think you're right on the latter sentence. They don't. As I've already said it's soundbites and slogans. If they put policies that impact their own lives and securities they wouldn't be voting for a party that consistently reduces funding to things like healthcare and police.
But thanks for agreeing that I'm trying to bring people UP to superior behaviours rather DOWN to their most base selfish ones.
Grenners is comedy gold.
Thick as mince and a fantasist to boot
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You can see there are a couple big things most are interested in stability and security most are not interested in schemes such as nationalisation, free internet places on boards for individuals - it’s will I pay more or less tax will my life be enhanced or not and that’s it
Key point this.Members of parties are not the general public
it’s will I pay more or less tax will my life be enhanced or not and that’s it
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