shmmeee
Well-Known Member
He did the same with the graph. The guy has some serious issues around accepting when he’s wrong and is permanently angry. He’s basically a left wing Grendel with slightly more brains.
Really strange. He's arguing over the semantics of lockdown because if he doesn't his condescending reply to my original post has no merit. The ridiculous thing is I didn't even use the term "lockdown" I asked what social distancing measures might remain in place while opening the economy back up.
He's manufactured an argument from nothing, painted himself into a corner, and now can't retreat from it. Basically he's done a Grendel.
You only have to read the words America’s thought leaders and you know it’s bullshit.China and the origins of the Covid-19 virus:
We haven't enforced it I agree.The rules are virtually the same: no non essential travel, non essential shops closed, gatherings banned, schools closed. The only real difference is that we haven’t tried to enforce it. But it’s a lockdown. Some are tighter than others but that doesn’t stop it being a lockdown. There are laws restricting when you’re allowed to leave your house that didn’t exist before. That’s lockdown. That’s what it is.
I don’t think chihuahuas count as full dogs, but they are.
He did the same with the graph. The guy has some serious issues around accepting when he’s wrong and is permanently angry. He’s basically a left wing Grendel with slightly more brains.
You only have to read the words America’s thought leaders and you know it’s bullshit.
The rules are not virtually the same at all and are much stricter here and in Spain, and that is not taking enforecement into account.The rules are virtually the same: no non essential travel, non essential shops closed, gatherings banned, schools closed. The only real difference is that we haven’t tried to enforce it. But it’s a lockdown. Some are tighter than others but that doesn’t stop it being a lockdown. There are laws restricting when you’re allowed to leave your house that didn’t exist before. That’s lockdown. That’s what it is.
I don’t think chihuahuas count as full dogs, but they are.
We haven't enforced it I agree.
The question is if we are classed as a lockdown compared to Spain and Italy why haven't we enforced it?
Sent from my I3113 using Tapatalk
The rules are not virtually the same at all and are much stricter here and in Spain, and that is not taking enforecement into account.
You can only go outside for exercise within 200 meters of your house (alone) - this has only been allowed within the last couple of weeksWhat's different?
You can only go outside for exercise within 200 meters of your house (alone) - this has only been allowed within the last couple of weeks
No driving around together in cars and then you can only go to work or to food shopping if you do not have a supermarket within walking distance
No driving to do exercise
Wearing a mask and gloves in public at all times
I see what you/others are getting at but the 200m rule is a big one though and seeing pictures of people running and exercising in public places is very, very different.Aside from the 200 m rule and the PPE (which is only because we don't have enough, the government are slowly changing position to reflect the stance of other nations - how many times has that happened during this crisis?) that's no different to here. It all comes under the "non-essential journeys" bit. So, we're not supposed to drive for exercise and people were fined for doing so in the last few weeks. There has been a bit of a walk back on that this week though.
See what some people are getting at? Essentially the same thing while not really enforcing it. In a way it's quite a smart move by the government but it's frustrating as people are confused and there is constant discussion in the media about what you can and can't do and sometimes shaming people for things that are tecnically allowed.
I see what you/others are getting at but the 200m rule is a big one though and seeing pictures of people running and exercising in public places is very, very different.
Yes but up until a couple of weeks ago it was not even possible to leave the house for exercise. It was possible to walk to the local shop but you had to carry a declaration form too.I can understand that mentally that makes a big difference. Since the "lockdown" started all I have done is driven to work, walk the dog a few blocks and walked to the local shop. Occasionally I will walk the dog to memorial park. So almost the same effect has been achieved by our government. The only thing I could do differently to that is drive to a supermarket or walk a bit further.
I see what you/others are getting at but the 200m rule is a big one though and seeing pictures of people running and exercising in public places is very, very different.
Italian lessons: what we've learned from two months of home schooling
Quite an interesting essay on home schooling children in Italy. As somebody who mostly found school very restrictive and uninspiring but in later life have looked at education completely differently through doing an Open Uni degree I can relate to some of the comments on how education can be modernised and facilitated in ways that can bring much more out of personalities who don't fit well into the traditional school system.
Yeah it’s easy to differentiate to that level when you’ve got class sizes of 1-3 TBF.
It’s not like teachers don’t want to do this stuff but the primary aim of schools as childcare centres and exam factories to get good numbers for politicians take priority. The biggest issue is simply staffing and timetabling. I remember talking to a Maths teacher about stage not age and the practical realities of implementing it.
The Tories have put the move towards a sensible education system into reverse the last ten years but there were hopes to move it towards more personalised, passion led learning and less rote sausage factory stuff.
That is actually quite an honourYou’re only supposed to be “local” here, that’s the official guidance. It’s just not enforced.
The point is that any restrictions on when you can leave your house are a lockdown. Some are stricter than others but they’re all lockdowns. A lockdown is a restriction on leaving an area. We are restricted. We are in lockdown.
This has to be up there as one of the stupider arguments I’ve had on this site.
Thanks will take a look later, I was the same at school and left at 16 with next to no qualifications but then ended up with 4 As at A-Level 5 years later.Italian lessons: what we've learned from two months of home schooling
Quite an interesting essay on home schooling children in Italy. As somebody who mostly found school very restrictive and uninspiring but in later life have looked at education completely differently through doing an Open Uni degree I can relate to some of the comments on how education can be modernised and facilitated in ways that can bring much more out of personalities who don't fit well into the traditional school system.
I can't offer much back on your points as my perspective is only as a student but the media coverage over the last few years on testing and metrics is worrying and as I said, the traditional school system and methods clearly don't cater for some personality types (I'm sure that's improved somewhat since I left school) and the rise of the internet must have helped.
Reading that essay it's interesting how the pandemic is forcing adaption to more modern methods and you can see similar trends elsewhere. I think it is going to have an accelerating affect on many technology trends.
The paramedics are literally mingling with the public
Why are the NHS and Police encouraging and allowing this shit? They might get some likes on social media and their faces on the news.
Isn’t all that illegal?
Is it me or have we randomly decided recently to fuck off the whole social distancing thing? Roads seem busier, people less careful in shops, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us start to climb again in a week or so when this catches up to hospitalisations.
Trump proposes injecting bleach to kill corona
I'm going to show sympathy here and assume he's metaphorically meaning vaccine acts like a disinfectant.Trump proposes injecting bleach to kill corona
Isn’t all that illegal?
Is it me or have we randomly decided recently to fuck off the whole social distancing thing? Roads seem busier, people less careful in shops, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us start to climb again in a week or so when this catches up to hospitalisations.
It does appear to be waning a little (which is why timing of its implementation was so important)
By and large I’d imagine a majority of the population are still following social distancing so it would be disappointing to see a climb in numbers on the back of groups of idiots queuing for a five guys burger !
Ps heard Ireland’s the same though which has led to an increase in cases over
Again I wonder whether the media's incessant desire for exit plan info is diluting the message .It does appear to be waning a little (which is why timing of its implementation was so important)
By and large I’d imagine a majority of the population are still following social distancing so it would be disappointing to see a climb in numbers on the back of groups of idiots queuing for a five guys burger !
Ps heard Ireland’s the same though which has led to an increase in cases over
I'm going to show sympathy here and assume he's metaphorically meaning vaccine acts like a disinfectant.
It all filters down doesn't it? People will see the media coverage of hundreds of people on a bridge talking to paramedics and police with no action and think Fuck it and start going out more.
It's the "IF they can do it, why am I sat in?" type stuff and they have a point. If the police and NHS are setting bad examples, why is somebody who's self employed going to struggle? They won't.
Yet if there's footage of 2 people sat on a beach surrounded by nobody at all you have all the cnuts shouting about them being evil granny killers.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?