Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (80 Viewers)

[covmark]

So why choose to post a picture of a protest regarding the systematic racism that is endemic in society and not of the white families having a jolly on a beach.

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Why did you post the photo on the beach, but not the Hyde Park photo.
Not everything everyone posts is race related.

The point is people are dying. A load of us have made sacrifices that are way beyond normality, but there are, it seems some sections of the public who don't give a shit.

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[fernandopartridge]

Why did you post the photo on the beach, but not the Hyde Park photo.
Not everything everyone posts is race related.

The point is people are dying. A load of us have made sacrifices that are way beyond normality, but there are, it seems some sections of the public who don't give a shit.

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The other point to make is that it presents an open goal for this useless government to pin the blame for the massive death rate on the public

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[wingy]

Well having just watched Dispatches get ready for the blood that will be spilled between the Govt and the Scientific community .
The ignorance of the PM in the early stages of this is utterly staggering .

 

[chiefdave]

Anyway, if anything sums up the ridiculous dogmatism of Rees Mogg and co, it's this spectacle:



The government is an utter embarrassment.

What are the actual rules at the moment. I've lost track with the way they randomly keep changing things.

I'm assuming as he was symptomatic he should have been self isolating but now that he's tested positive does that mean that those who came into contact with him have to isolate as well? Would have thought so otherwise track and trace, as badly as it is implemented, is pointless.

 

[covmark]

The other point to make is that it presents an open goal for this useless government to pin the blame for the massive death rate on the public

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Yep, and I'm sure they'll pin the blame on anyone but themselves.
Trouble is, a lot of people will swallow that shit. I've had many an argument, at work, and with family about this. People don't like to think they're being fucked over. Especially by the ones they elected.

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[skybluetony176]

What are the actual rules at the moment. I've lost track with the way they randomly keep changing things.

I'm assuming as he was symptomatic he should have been self isolating but now that he's tested positive does that mean that those who came into contact with him have to isolate as well? Would have thought so otherwise track and trace, as badly as it is implemented, is pointless.

apparently 25000 track and trace staff have tracked and traced just 2000 people in the last 3 days. #worldbeating

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Wtf

Of course some pillocks with masks still on

 

[skybluetony176]

I wonder if you done a graph of the governments approval rating and overlayed it on a graph of reported cases of people saying “would you rather live in Italy” they’d be linear?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I wonder if you done a graph of the governments approval rating and overlayed it on a graph of reported cases of people saying “would you rather live in Italy” they’d be linear?

Maybe Sick Boy can provide some data on 'preferisci vivere in Inghilterra?'

 

[chiefdave]

Awful

Wtf

What’s it supposed to be, nothing showing up.

 

[stupot07]

Would you rather be in Italy?

Taking back control

The EU are making a mess of this crisis

We're better off out of it

Etc etc

Its even worse when you consider our population is around 65-68m and the rest of europe combined is around 450m.

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[djr8369]

Gove I recon. So basically Cummings will stay in charge.

Oh fucking hell you’re right.


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[djr8369]

I wonder if you done a graph of the governments approval rating and overlayed it on a graph of reported cases of people saying “would you rather live in Italy” they’d be linear?

I still can’t get my head around anyone thinking they’ve done a good job.


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[djr8369]

I don’t think he should go ‘yet’ but he needs to get some sort of grip on this situation, it’s like nobody is listening and the country is becoming closer to financial collapse each day, we also need to get a massive grip on PPE and testing as it’s a mess

One thing I do admire is the furlough scheme, incredible from the government

Personally I think we’re in big trouble now. We can’t stay in lockdown any longer as too many businesses are struggling but we haven’t got cases low enough to come out of lockdown without a second spike. If a second spike occurs will we be able to afford to go into lockdown again? Test and trace is going to have to carry a hell of a lot of work and it doesn’t sound fit for purpose and the way everything else has gone you’d assume it will break under the slightest pressure.


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[Deleted member 5849]

Deaths seem to be plateauing at a pretty horrifying 300-400 and we're quarantining people from countries with barely any new infections. Johnson has got to fall on his sword for this, I don't mind a more level headed Tory taking charge.

Haven't all of those been purged?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Haven't all of those been purged?

I was hoping that at least one remained

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I was hoping that at least one remained

It comes to something where I long for Jeremy Hunt in charge, but he's been marginalised too.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It comes to something where I long for Jeremy Hunt in charge, but he's been marginalised too.

Same for Sajid Javid

 

[shmmeee]

Of course Rishi Sunak is currently the UKs most popular MP.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Of course Rishi Sunak is currently the UKs most popular MP.

God.

 

[clint van damme]

It comes to something where I long for Jeremy Hunt in charge, but he's been marginalised too.

I always considered him to have too many ties to the private health care industry.
But of course Hancock has as well and is an absolute cretin so Hunt would probably be the lesser of 2 evils which appears to be where we are now with politics.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I always considered him to have too many ties to the private health care industry.
But of course Hancock has as well and is an absolute cretin so Hunt would probably be the lesser of 2 evils which appears to be where we are now with politics.

Time for a May / Starmer coalition!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Time for a May / Starmer coalition!

I'm fine seeing Starmer roast the clown for a few more weeks but it'll eventually be time to get serious and return him to the circus

 

[The coventrian]

Theres bound to be a 2nd wave now after thousands of arseholes gathered together yesterday in London and around the country. Mostly made up I guess of the I havent got a fucking clue what I'm protesting about but lets jump on the bandwagon brigade. What's the fucking point of lockdown? I guess it wont get mentioned though as what Cummings did was far worse as hes a nasty Tory blah blah.
Also,a touchy subject for a few on here(god knows why) it was a record day for illegally entering the country via the channel yesterday. 166 people I believe with over a 140 which were young men. Funny as a few on here are adamant that they're mostly women and men. We're in the middle of a pandemic so who knows what this lot are bringing in. I'm sure tony,ian and the likes of nw will offer to house them though? Well after yesterday's shenanigans I guess it doesn't matter now.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Theres bound to be a 2nd wave now after thousands of arseholes gathered together yesterday in London and around the country. Mostly made up I guess of the I havent got a fucking clue what I'm protesting about but lets jump on the bandwagon brigade. What's the fucking point of lockdown? I guess it wont get mentioned though as what Cummings did was far worse as hes a nasty Tory blah blah.
Also,a touchy subject for a few on here(god knows why) it was a record day for illegally entering the country via the channel yesterday. 166 people I believe with over a 140 which were young men. Funny as a few on here are adamant that they're mostly women and men. We're in the middle of a pandemic so who knows what this lot are bringing in. I'm sure tony,ian and the likes of nw will offer to house them though? Well after yesterday's shenanigans I guess it doesn't matter now.

There's also been loads of arseholes going to the beach or Brighton pier though yes the mass protests yesterday also had them.

We all know your solution to those trying to get in across the Channel. Should we have shot their dinghies?

 

[SBAndy]

It comes to something where I long for Jeremy Hunt in charge, but he's been marginalised too.

Thought the same when watching Peston last night. Hunt was being mildly critical of the government - had to check he hadn’t left the party!

 

[Ian1779]

Theres bound to be a 2nd wave now after thousands of arseholes gathered together yesterday in London and around the country. Mostly made up I guess of the I havent got a fucking clue what I'm protesting about but lets jump on the bandwagon brigade. What's the fucking point of lockdown? I guess it wont get mentioned though as what Cummings did was far worse as hes a nasty Tory blah blah.
Also,a touchy subject for a few on here(god knows why) it was a record day for illegally entering the country via the channel yesterday. 166 people I believe with over a 140 which were young men. Funny as a few on here are adamant that they're mostly women and men. We're in the middle of a pandemic so who knows what this lot are bringing in. I'm sure tony,ian and the likes of nw will offer to house them though? Well after yesterday's shenanigans I guess it doesn't matter now.

Firstly - you have a point about mass gatherings and the effect they could have on the spread of the virus. I don’t know how you protest whilst remaining socially distant. Lockdown was ended by the government and their ‘leading by example’ actions. And as Brighton said - there have been lots of other examples of mass gatherings on beach and parks by people of all ages, skin colours and political persuasions.

Secondly - I didn’t realise you were personally provided with the data on their individual circumstances. I assume you’ll know if they are people that are claiming asylum, or refugees. But you won’t care regardless. You just see what you want to.

 

[shmmeee]

God.

I mean he’s alright but that’s a bit strong.

 

[Nick]

Im not sure Lockdown was ended by the government, was it? People have been flouting it all the time but as long as it's to show solidarity to somebody or another it's got a pass.

People crowded onto a bridge with Paramedics and it was fine, go to an empty beach or want to sit in a beer garden and you kill your granny.

 

[clint van damme]

Im not sure Lockdown was ended by the government, was it? People have been flouting it all the time but as long as it's to show solidarity to somebody or another it's got a pass.

People crowded onto a bridge with Paramedics and it was fine, go to an empty beach or want to sit in a beer garden and you kill your granny.

I asked you before, can you link where people said any of those things are fine?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Im not sure Lockdown was ended by the government, was it?

Government is responsible for the message it puts out.

 

[Nick]

I asked you before, can you link where people said any of those things are fine?

I am talking about the general consensus. Look at the aspect the media are pushing as well, look at the general reactions on here.

Lockdown and social distancing doesn't seem to apply if you are doing it for a "cause" it goes under the radar. Same weeks ago when dicks were acting up in supermarkets over some Pasta, it was OK because they "need to eat".

 

[LastGarrison]

Wales are extending the school year by a week just to bring people back on the 29th because 'people have been missing out on learning for too long'. They have also roundly criticised teaching unions who have a problem with it and seem to forget that most of us have been busting our arses teaching remotely.

Didn't know that G was pulling the strings over there

This is what was relayed to teachers in Wales yesterday.

All schools in wales are to open for all years on June 29th until july 27th a week into summer hols and then open again sept1st with an extra week off for october half term. No more than a third of school at any one time. More details next week. ... bit different to what we thought they would do... I can imagine this would be a huge logistical nightmare for heads!

 

[shmmeee]

Regarding the men vs women thing @The coventrian

I believe the idea is young men are more likely to make the dangerous journey across and then either send money back, or get asylum and bring their family over. That’s why it’s young men. The elderly and frail don’t tend to cling to rafts/the underside of lorries so well.

 

[Grendel]

I asked you before, can you link where people said any of those things are fine?

The scale of outrage is different as you know - now of course conveniently lockdown has ended - that’s odd. Most shops are still closed, the ones that are open have queues outside everywhere, sport is off, concerts off, pubs and cafes closed

I’ll amazed people on here aren’t demanding the resignation of Barry Gardiner. At least Nandy and even Lammy have put the boot in - will be interesting if Starmer removes the whip