Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (72 Viewers)

[MalcSB]

Just saw Hancock saying it’s down to demand not capacity.

I do have to question why countries that have stated testing is part of their plan can get the tests and those that have gone a different route have problems.

There isn’t much of an in vitro diagnostics industry in the U.K., there never has been really as the domestic market is so small. Germany and the US have always had big players in that industry and seem to have had the ability to do lots of tests. I wonder if there is a link? Demand is being gradually increased, following increases in capacity, as the availability of testing to more groups is opened up.

 

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[shmmeee]

There isn’t much of an in vitro diagnostics industry in the U.K., there never has been really as the domestic market is so small. Germany and the US have always had big players in that industry and seem to have had the ability to do lots of tests. I wonder if there is a link? Demand is being gradually increased, following increases in capacity, as the availability of testing to more groups is opened up.

I may be being stupid here, but we live in a world of global trade, couldn’t we just buy them in? IIRC Germany were doing tests for Italy at one point.

Looking at the country by country rates were below places like Equador and Turkey, do these places have large in vitro diagnostics industries?

Don’t mean this to come across as accusatory, all genuine questions sorry.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Germany opening schools from May 4th and some shops from next week

 

[MalcSB]

I may be being stupid here, but we live in a world of global trade, couldn’t we just buy them in? IIRC Germany were doing tests for Italy at one point.

Looking at the country by country rates were below places like Equador and Turkey, do these places have large in vitro diagnostics industries?

Don’t mean this to come across as accusatory, all genuine questions sorry.

I really don’t know, I was just trying to make sense of it. We clearly started from a low base in terms of equipment. It’s a new virus and the test is a genetic test so there wouldn’t have been specific reagents on the shelf. Did Turkey start seeing cases earlier and got in the market before the supply became limited? Have all countries been as stringent in terms of acceptability of sensitivity and specificity of tests used - there seems to be a lot of stuff out there that isn’t great. Locally, all the stops have been pulled out to develop a robust testing capability in a very short time frame against difficulties with supply.

I guess there will be a review after the event. Whether that will identify the root cause - who knows. To a very great extent, the difficulties with supply of PPE are the most difficult to understand. None of that kit is new or specific.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Liam Gallagher is putting on a free concert for nhs workers at the 02

That will kill the Virus.

 

[rondog1973]

Yep she knows this as well

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She also coined the term alternative facts...

 

[Johhny Blue]

Yeah. Have you seen the amount of barbers down FGS? That's a lot of men needing a haircut in such a small area.....

There's also a lot of baldies in Holland

 

[Gray]

I may be being stupid here, but we live in a world of global trade, couldn’t we just buy them in? IIRC Germany were doing tests for Italy at one point.


Looking at the country by country rates were below places like Equador and Turkey, do these places have large in vitro diagnostics industries?

Don’t mean this to come across as accusatory, all genuine questions sorry.

Turkey is 3 times the size of the UK and most people live in villages, so keeping away from people is easier. Here we are squeezed into a relatively small space with the 2nd highest population in Europe. You can't judge every country the same

 

[shmmeee]

Turkey is 3 times the size of the UK and most people live in villages, so keeping away from people is easier. Here we are squeezed into a relatively small space with the 2nd highest population in Europe. You can't judge every country the same

What’s that got to do with the number of tests per capita they’ve done?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Lockdown Lessons #9

nasal hair clippers weren’t such a shit christmas present after all

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What’s happening in France and is that us in 2 weeks?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

USA, Germany, France, Spain and Italy all seem to have some sort of strategy coming out for getting out the lockdown....does anyone think our government has even thought this through yet? I know we’re behind a few of them but who knows

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

What’s happening in France and is that us in 2 weeks?

Lockdown till the 11th with some things then reopening and some schools back by the end of May

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Also the government said today that the capacity is there today to do all the testing but the demand isn’t there....something I’m also confused about because isn’t everyone pissed were not testing enough?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Also the government said today that the capacity is there today to do all the testing but the demand isn’t there....something I’m also confused about because isn’t everyone pissed were not testing enough?

It's just more horseshit from Hancock. The NHS employees alone could eat that extra capacity pretty quickly.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

First heard this story yesterday and it was £1m, then saw it a bit later £2m, this morning on FB it was at £5m, now £7m!

At this rate this guy will be funding more of the NHS than the government!

More than Starbucks et al.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Also the government said today that the capacity is there today to do all the testing but the demand isn’t there....something I’m also confused about because isn’t everyone pissed were not testing enough?

Yep - no demand my arse. There must be hundreds of thousands of people who'd love to be tested to see if they've got it or not. Not to mention all the health and care workers.

 

[hill83]

Yep - no demand my arse. There must be hundreds of thousands of people who'd love to be tested to see if they've got it or not. Not to mention all the health and care workers.

I’d like a test to see if I’ve had it or not please.

 

[chiefdave]

The more that comes out the worse it gets. Is there actually anything the government haven't messed up in handling this crisis?

Social care virus response sparks 'confusion'

Written on Saturday to a senior official at the Department of Health and Social Care by the Association of Directors of Adult Social Services (Adass), it says mixed messages from the government have created "confusion and additional workload".

On protective equipment for care workers, the letter says the national handling has been "shambolic".

Early drops of equipment have been "paltry" and more recent deliveries have been "haphazard", with some even being confiscated by border control for the NHS.

Brits criticise 'shambolic' return from India

British tourists returning from India have called the UK government response "shambolic" and "embarrassing".

Some said it took hours to reach anyone by phone, communication was confusing and the British authorities were "incompetent and uncaring".

One man, who is still in India, said he was told he was being taken to a flight but later found out this was an error.

 

[Astute]

What’s happening in France and is that us in 2 weeks?

If you go past the headlines....yes it could be us.

Parts of what is happening are confusing. One woman started advertising her hairdressers was opening on the 11th March. Social media went into meltdown. Half were saying it wasn't allowed and the other half were saying it was allowed.

Children's clothes shops are allowed to reopen on the 11th. Does this mean only children's clothes or is it any shop that sells some children's clothes? If this is the case can a shop start selling some children's clothes and then reopen?

They have managed the situation much better than we have. But there is still a lot of confusion about. You can't shut life down as we know it and not explain every point clearly. But how do you explain every point clearly when people are desperate to get their businesses up and running again so are looking for loopholes.

The only clear rule is no entertainment business of any kind is allowed to reopen until at least mid July.

 

[singers_pore]

Almost every government and MSM outlet has fucked up since this started back in January. It crosses the political spectrum from the right (Trump, Boris) to the left (the socialist's wet dream of Sweden).

Personally, when all this is done and dusted, I hope the people who fucked up are held to account. Time to dust off those guillotines.

 

[Gazolba]

World Health Organisation::

 

[Sick Boy]

World Health Organisation::

Haha wow never realised just how bad Fox was, no doubt many will actually fall for the propaganda and start to focus away from Trump.
No one else is to blame apart from him for what’s going on in America, the guy is clearly unhinged and has majorly fucked up.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

What a man!
Capt Tom Moore's joy as his NHS fundraiser tops £11m JANE FRYER meets Tom Moore, the war veteran who has raised £11million (and counting!) for the NHS | Daily Mail Online

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[clint van damme]

Haha wow never realised just how bad Fox was, no doubt many will actually fall for the propaganda and start to focus away from Trump.
No one else is to blame apart from him for what’s going on in America, the guy is clearly unhinged and has majorly fucked up.

"look at the facts and rise above partisan bickering" HAHA!!

 

[clint van damme]

What a man!
Capt Tom Moore's joy as his NHS fundraiser tops £11m JANE FRYER meets Tom Moore, the war veteran who has raised £11million (and counting!) for the NHS | Daily Mail Online

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It's over 12 mil! Every time someone announces a figure it immediately becomes incorrect a the amount goes up!

 

[skybluetony176]

The more that comes out the worse it gets. Is there actually anything the government haven't messed up in handling this crisis?

PR. Seemingly large sections of society are convinced that Boris is some sort of Tory Jesus and therefore the government are beyond reproach. That’s good PR for you.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It's over 12 mil! Every time someone announces a figure it immediately becomes incorrect a the amount goes up!

I don't know what to make of it. Fair play to him, and all, but *we* should be looking after *him*.

 

[clint van damme]

I don't know what to make of it. Fair play to him, and all, but *we* should be looking after *him*.

true, but he seemed over the moon when I saw him interviewed two days ago.

 

[David O'Day]

Haha wow never realised just how bad Fox was, no doubt many will actually fall for the propaganda and start to focus away from Trump.
No one else is to blame apart from him for what’s going on in America, the guy is clearly unhinged and has majorly fucked up.

Sad thing is Gazolba probably agrees with that nonsense

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[David O'Day]

It's over 12 mil! Every time someone announces a figure it immediately becomes incorrect a the amount goes up!

Brilliant but sad that we don't live in a country were the health services financial settlement pays for even it's day to day operations

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[Liquid Gold]

World Health Organisation::

Fox News rots your brain.

 

[fernandopartridge]

The more that comes out the worse it gets. Is there actually anything the government haven't messed up in handling this crisis?

Social care virus response sparks 'confusion'

Brits criticise 'shambolic' return from India

When people cheer lead austerity and getting rid of civil servants etc, this sort of thing is the result. Contrary to what the Daily Mail says, there weren't millions of people employed as 'Diversity Advisors' or 'Health and Safety Advisors', they were people performing roles that provided a public service function, which the post 2010 government decided didn't matter.

 

[skybluetony176]

World Health Organisation::

Stop watching Fox News because Fox News contrives to frighten you.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I don't know what to make of it. Fair play to him, and all, but *we* should be looking after *him*.

Every time I see it it makes me uncomfortable. Like you say, fair play to the guy but he’s paid taxes hi while life. We all pay taxes now. That’s what should be funding the NHS not some mad go fund me.