Cup of tea and a Rich Tea biscuit. Or a bag of chips.
From the last decade they get credit from me for
1. Passing gay marriage though with a big nudge from the Lib Dems
2. Raising the minimum wage, though not by enough
3. Furlough, though again this could have reached more people
4. Buying up vaccines before anyone else
The rest I am struggling
Scottish people voting to stay in the EU when they wouldn't meet any of the entry criteria if they became independent is crazy.
I was struggling to think of anything past vaccine procurement so decided to google and see what came up. The first result was Conservative campaign literature which by a stunning coincidence has listed exactly the same things as youAnd of course
5. Reversed the trend in the budget deficit, considerably slowing down the national debt (prior to covid)
6. Real terms increases in NHS
7. Real terms increase in education funding
8. Year on ear real terms increase in business investment
8. Lowest level of recorded crimes
9. Brexit deal done (whether you agreed with Brexit, or the deal)
10. First country in the world to introduce a target for zero net emissions by 2050, reduction in greenhouse gasses by nearly 30 per cent
Here's a question .
Has a conservative government ever done anything that you think is good or is it quite literally a situation where no matter what you just despise them .
I struggle with the idea that you shouldn't vote for a particular party no matter what .
I did vote Labour again , but if the tories did absolutely nothing good at all , then surely everybody would want them out .
As it stands they are one of the most successful political parties in the democratic world in terms of elections won .
It doesn't add up .
I'd appreciate your thoughts on it
Not everything can be bad , it's impossible
I was struggling to think of anything past vaccine procurement so decided to google and see what came up. The first result was Conservative campaign literature which by a stunning coincidence has listed exactly the same things as you
Yes - giving my parents the chance to buy their council house so they (my Dad) could actually get on the housing ladder. Without that he probably never would have done.Here's a question .
Has a conservative government ever done anything that you think is good or is it quite literally a situation where no matter what you just despise them .
I struggle with the idea that you shouldn't vote for a particular party no matter what .
I did vote Labour again , but if the tories did absolutely nothing good at all , then surely everybody would want them out .
As it stands they are one of the most successful political parties in the democratic world in terms of elections won .
It doesn't add up .
I'd appreciate your thoughts on it
Not everything can be bad , it's impossible
Yes - giving my parents the chance to buy their council house so they (my Dad) could actually get on the housing ladder. Without that he probably never would have done.
And of course
5. Reversed the trend in the budget deficit, considerably slowing down the national debt (prior to covid)
6. Real terms increases in NHS
7. Real terms increase in education funding
8. Year on ear real terms increase in business investment
8. Lowest level of recorded crimes
9. Brexit deal done (whether you agreed with Brexit, or the deal)
10. First country in the world to introduce a target for zero net emissions by 2050, reduction in greenhouse gasses by nearly 30 per cent
11. A fun and optimistic PM.
Interesting but not surprising, we've become America
also falls in line with what people say about many on the left hating their country ... not a dig but an observation proving to be correct View attachment 20045
What of the criteria wouldn’t they meet?Scottish people voting to stay in the EU when they wouldn't meet any of the entry criteria if they became independent is crazy.
Here's a question .
Has a conservative government ever done anything that you think is good or is it quite literally a situation where no matter what you just despise them .
I struggle with the idea that you shouldn't vote for a particular party no matter what .
I did vote Labour again , but if the tories did absolutely nothing good at all , then surely everybody would want them out .
As it stands they are one of the most successful political parties in the democratic world in terms of elections won .
It doesn't add up .
I'd appreciate your thoughts on it
Not everything can be bad , it's impossible
No I can't deny that , Boris won't allow the vote anyway
Not fully formed but there’s a wider point about the left and its aversion to masculinity generally, which encompasses pride, strength, leadership, etc.
I'd argue that politically, he's in danger of making the independence movement grow if he denies a vote, too.It’s not a ringing endorsement if he’s there saying no even if they get 55-60% plus wanting it
I'd argue that politically, he's in danger of making the independence movement grow if he denies a vote, too.
I'd argue that politically, he's in danger of making the independence movement grow if he denies a vote, too.
Same issue more pro EU parties had in the last General Election.Unionists could always work together and stand aside in certain areas in future to ensure that the snp loses ..in many areas unionists got more votes but split ..
The snp literally gets a majority because of this
There is nothing to suggest a majority of Scots even want another vote (other than sturgeon banging on about it). A majority even voted for unionist parties in last weeks election. Also recent polling suggests if there was a vote, remain would win again.
Ps agree with NW though, denying the vote will potentially boost sturgeon support but she has limited right to ask, especially when it appears a majority of Scots don’t currently want it
It has. If there really isn't the appetite for independence, let them have their vote.My point was less that and more that Brexit has boosted support for independence which seems difficult to deny
On a more serious note , this is keir doing slightly better on social media I suppose ..
Rather than " vote us for a brighter future " , which is just soundbites, atleast he's saying what they did and what they offer .
He has to push Labour policies and achievements openly and constantly View attachment 20046
Yes, there was a strong line from Burnham that this - and devolution - may be the future of Labour politics - make sense. Tories keep overall control, but balanced by strong regions.
But much of the Tory stuff is just soundbites.
Labour have been criticised for being negative and pushing how bad the Tories are, now you're saying when they post positive stuff about what they offer it's just meaningless soundbites.
Has there been a more meaningless soundbite than 'Get Brexit Done'? It says nothing of what they offer or hope to achieve in that Brexit deal yet millions lapped it up and gave them a huge majority on the back of it.
If the attitude is going to be , but the tories , for the next few years then we can't expect change as we already know that doesn't work
Yes, but you've literally just criticised the opposite approach of 'vote for us for a brighter future' as nothing but a soundbite. Which is the Tory go-to. Remember 'Labour Isn't Working'? Exactly the same message of negativity in the current governing party - lapped up.
They are already in power though , they are in control .
They are already in power though , they are in control .
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