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tisza

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  • Jul 28, 2022
  • #351
Paul Anthony said:
I fully admit, I never thought I'd get to like Vettel as much as I've grown to like him. I absolutely couldn't stand him at Red Bull (a mix of his youthful arrogance, but probably more so how the Red Bull/Helmut Marko PR machine built him) but I really have. He's been a credit to the sport, and can retire knowing he's achieved more than most ever will out of it.
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So many Verstappen comparisons that it does seem like a Red bull/Marko production line. Was arrogant, aggressive, petulant when things went wrong, difficult teammate.
Had one of the great championship battles with Alonso & Ferrari.
Grown older and (with less pressure from challenging) has been an elderstatesman of F1 and not been shy on calling out on the big issues
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Jul 28, 2022
  • #352
Completely agree. Never used to like vettel especially after the malaysia ‘multi 21’ incident but he seems to have really matured into a sensible and grounded character over the years. It’s a shame he hasn’t been able to win a championship post 2013 - and he seems to have not really been the same since 2018 but all things considered he is a brilliant driver and a great guy who will be missed
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 28, 2022
  • #353
For me Hockenheim 2018 was the turning point.

Winning by a mile before the rain came down, and if he would have held on i think he would have gone 50 or so points ahead in the championship.

The confidence etc that would have brought I imagine he would have won that

The tone of voice, the absolute distraught demeanor from that race was the turning point of Sebs career for me. Could have been a 5 time world champion, instead just went away into the background
 
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Si80

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  • Jul 28, 2022
  • #354
wingy said:
Where for him?
A career in politics or an international ambassador for various causes?
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If the FIA or F1 had any sense about them they'd get him straight in to direct the sport in the right way.
 
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ovduk78

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  • Jul 28, 2022
  • #355
Si80 said:
If the FIA or F1 had any sense about them they'd get him straight in to direct the sport in the right way.
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Should make him race director or whatever they call it. I can't believe they don't use ex drivers unless they previously have and it didn't work.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 28, 2022
  • #356
ovduk78 said:
Should make him race director or whatever they call it. I can't believe they don't use ex drivers unless they previously have and it didn't work.
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They use them for the stewards and it's a bit erratic.

Don't think you could use him as there'd be accusations of favouratism dependent on what punishments to which driver. Imagine Mick Schumacher going away scott free while Hamilton got a 10 place penalty. Even if justified, it'd lead to all kinds of cat calling (even if it would be fun to watch!).
 

ovduk78

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  • Jul 28, 2022
  • #357
Deleted member 5849 said:
They use them for the stewards and it's a bit erratic.

Don't think you could use him as there'd be accusations of favouratism dependent on what punishments to which driver. Imagine Mick Schumacher going away scott free while Hamilton got a 10 place penalty. Even if justified, it'd lead to all kinds of cat calling (even if it would be fun to watch!).
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I thought that might be a problem. They have used them in motogp & I think they still do and can't remember there being lots of problems although Freddie Spencer did upset a few with his very strict rulings. I'm not sure how someone who hasn't raced at a high standard can make judgements on racing incidents.
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 30, 2022
  • #358
What a Q3!
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 30, 2022
  • #359
GEORGEEEE
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 30, 2022
  • #360
Saddlebrains said:
GEORGEEEE
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I couldn't believe my eyes when he went P1!
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Jul 30, 2022
  • #361
Jumbled up grid - should make up for a decent race
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #362
Ferrari finding ever more creative ways to lose a championship.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #363
Paul Anthony said:
Ferrari finding ever more creative ways to lose a championship.
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Not quite sure what drugs they're all taking, but not performance enhacing ones...!
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 31, 2022
  • #364
Ferrari are fucking pathetic
 
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Si80

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #365
Great drive by Verstappen to get himself on the top step. Drives like that are what win you championships. Well, that and Ferrari not knowing how to manage the best car and driver set up they've had in a long while the absolute muppets

Mercedes get another great and unexpected result. Can see them winning a race by the end of the season now with the improvements they have made. Reckon they could pip Ferrari to 2nd in the Constructors too.

Spa next
 

tisza

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #366
Long weekend at Hungarian GP.
First time in years temps have been cool - normally like an oven.
Managed to catch the Citygame and women's final in various team hospitality areas.
Ferrari's failures not a surprise - out with various team people before quali and they were joking about how Ferrari would find a way to cock it up. Recurring theme over a number of years.
Met a lot of members of the women's race teams out and about Thurs night in Budapest. Great fun and so enthusiastic about their sport.
Still issues with some drunk Dutch fans harrassing Brit families supporting Hamilton on the Friday evening - not in the circuit itself but around it.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #367


Did not see that coming
 
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Si80

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #368
Really surprised at the Alonso news. Seems a backwards step on the grid for him.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #369
Saddlebrains said:
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Did not see that coming View attachment 25574
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For a guy whose made a career out of making terrible team moves, I have a feeling this is another one. Can't see Aston challenging for race wins any time soon, certainly not either title.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #370
Ah, it's not April 1st then, but is actually true.

Isn't it more Alpine want Piastri in there, so Alonso might not have had a choice to stay there?
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #371
Deleted member 5849 said:
Ah, it's not April 1st then, but is actually true.

Isn't it more Alpine want Piastri in there, so Alonso might not have had a choice to stay there?
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Surely anyone would choose alonso over ocon though? Maybe if it is that they forced him out it’s because they feel they can get more good years out of ocon
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Aug 1, 2022
  • #372
Deleted member 5849 said:
Ah, it's not April 1st then, but is actually true.

Isn't it more Alpine want Piastri in there, so Alonso might not have had a choice to stay there?
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From what I've heard, Alonso wanted more stability in terms of contract length. Alpine were offering a year plus an option, Aston offered a straight up two year deal.

I just don't see it working out well. Think Alpine are going to be closer to the front than Aston will be for some time, and he's not going to play second fiddle to daddy Stroll's little boy. Reckon tempers could fray.
 
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bezzer

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #373
Alonso listening to Briatore again
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #374
It's beginning to look like Alonso has caused quite a headache at Alpine.

There's suggestions that Alpine had allowed Piastri to negotiate a move to McLaren for next season to replace Ricciardo, a driver loan if you like. To such an extent, a deal was rumoured to have actually been agreed.

Now, Alonso has gone, Alpine have decided to renage on that deal, and announce Piastri for next season alongside Ocon. Obviously, if the McLaren deal is true that means he's contracted twice for next season...

If that's the case, that's the second time this season McLaren have signed a driver, whose soon after been announced by another team (Palou in Indy was signed by McLaren, only for Chip Ganassi to put out a press release saying he was with them from next season)

This is currently what's doing the rounds on social media anyway. Who knows how true it is. I think Silly Season has gone into overdrive!
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #375
And right on cue..... This is going to be messy

 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #376
Fucks going on here
 

Si80

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  • Aug 2, 2022
  • #377
Alpine only found out Alonso had gone to Aston when they saw Aston’s press release and they believe he’s still contractually aligned to them!

Some contract lawyers are going to be making a lot of money.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Aug 8, 2022
  • #378
I'm not a gamer but think it's cool as fuck that Call of Duty have incorporated a map at an F1 track

 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Aug 9, 2022
  • #379
Paul Anthony said:
I think it's been on his mind all season, honestly. At least since Melbourne. He's got no interest pottering around at the back of the grid in sub-par machinery.

I fully admit, I never thought I'd get to like Vettel as much as I've grown to like him. I absolutely couldn't stand him at Red Bull (a mix of his youthful arrogance, but probably more so how the Red Bull/Helmut Marko PR machine built him) but I really have. He's been a credit to the sport, and can retire knowing he's achieved more than most ever will out of it.
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Saw Vettel at Silverstone on the Saturday last year sorting out the recycling rubbish for his team. That's how much he's changed. Hated him in the past but feel the same about him as you do now.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Aug 25, 2022
  • #380
Ricciardo gone from McLaren then, who've basically said they binned him off a year early because he's been shit. Will always be remembered for that win in Monza. Be interesting to see where he goes now, a few teams on the grid without confirmed line-ups for next season.

Kiss and make up with Alpine? Haas have been in touch but can't see him going there. Tsunoda's contract is up at the end of this year too I think so could possibly go back to Alpha Tauri.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 25, 2022
  • #381
SkyBlueSoul said:
Ricciardo gone from McLaren then, who've basically said they binned him off a year early because he's been shit. Will always be remembered for that win in Monza. Be interesting to see where he goes now, a few teams on the grid without confirmed line-ups for next season.

Kiss and make up with Alpine? Haas have been in touch but can't see him going there. Tsunoda's contract is up at the end of this year too I think so could possibly go back to Alpha Tauri.
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It's been an odd spell for him. Did well at Red Bull (threatened to eclipse Vettell, could hold his own against Verstappen half the time, if only he could do it consistently...), did alright at Renault after a slow start... did get that win for McLaren! But has been poor really.

Haas seems too big a downgrade, although if Bottas can end up at Alfa Romeo, maybe it's not so daft. Alpine's an odd one, they appear to be just treading water really. Can't really see the appeal of him for Alpha Tauri, or Alpha Tauri for him so think that'd be out.

Always seems a bit odd when a driver's moved out with half a season to go, but still races. Not like he's going to be motivated to try and catch Norris up now, is it.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 25, 2022
  • #382
Indycar/ Nascar beckons i feel

Rumour in the paddock is its Mick Schumacher/ Pierre Gasly for the Alpine seat and Piastri will be in the McLaren


Some unexpected musical chairs this season
 
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  • Aug 25, 2022
  • #383
Saddlebrains said:
Indycar/ Nascar beckons i feel
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He says he'sstaying in F1. I don't have any reason to doubt him as of yet tbh.

Current crop of F2 drivers also not amazing, so no pressure for a superstar needing to be promoted. That one is Piastri really, who gets his gig somewhere next season at least.
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Aug 25, 2022
  • #384
 
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bezzer

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  • Aug 25, 2022
  • #385
He's said he wants to stay in F1 so doubt he'll go to Nascar.

My money is on a return to Alpine.
 
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