Nick
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What a twat
What a twat
I am not sure what international pressure would stop Israel to be honest. I think they are set on this course of action regardless, and anyway there is no way the West will try to stop them.We can stop them, international pressure will lead to a ceasefire and then an international force to maintain order and funding to help the non terrorist palestinian authorities such as Fatah build infrastructure with a view to implementing a 2 state solution
I hope you are right that they are having second thoughts but doubt it. I suspect they know it is a very dangerous mission and they will themselves incur major losses so they are being cautious before going in.Interestingly it appears that Israel has held off ( so far) from launching the all out land assault that was thought to be imminent.
So maybe international pressure is making them rethink.
Also the USA has sent a carrier task force to the area, that maybe to assure Israel that Iran won't enter the equation (I'm guessing here) but this may (?) De-escalate things.
Be interesting to see if things scale back a bit now.
the west opinion is already turning away from blinding supporting themI am not sure what international pressure would stop Israel to be honest. I think they are set on this course of action regardless, and anyway there is no way the West will try to stop them.
OkWe can stop them, international pressure will lead to a ceasefire and then an international force to maintain order and funding to help the non terrorist palestinian authorities such as Fatah build infrastructure with a view to implementing a 2 state solution
To not behave like terrorists in retaliation would be a good starting point.So what's your solution to a state that's under attack from a terrorist organisation?
Again I'm genuinely interested in your answer, everyone's apauled, but no one has an answer.
Eye for an eye??I expect Israel to not target civilians or kids
Is that such a big ask?
In Northern Ireland amongst republicans there’s been sympathy with Gaza especially for decades. It’s not unusual in the north to pass a catholic area and see a Free Gaza sign. They see a similarity between themselves being occupied and Gaza being occupied.Just seen a video from Ireland with people with flags in a supermarket demanding a boycott of things.
Then chanting "we are all palistinions" even forcing their kids to.
It's cult like.
Edit: think it's an old video.
makes the whole world blindEye for an eye??
Threaten a ban on the sales of arms and technical assistance on arms to them. That would soon buck their ideas up.I am not sure what international pressure would stop Israel to be honest. I think they are set on this course of action regardless, and anyway there is no way the West will try to stop them.
I know hence why I follow Jesusmakes the whole world blind
The fella who plays for Arsenal?I know hence why I follow Jesus
YepThe fella who plays for Arsenal?
Oh yeah Jesus Navas ex Man Cikty WingerYep
no the guy that laid down his life for all
I know we’re shit at living it but at its root the eye for an eye stuff was better than escalation
He’s the us guy isn’t heInteresting that Lloyd Austin has gone to Israel and talking about the right to defend itself but also uphold the laws of war
Yeah a former General and current US Sec. Of DefenceHe’s the us guy isn’t he
It's not going to happen quickly enough. We have entrenched views in the West in support of Israel, hence Shapps' interview this morning.Threaten a ban on the sales of arms and technical assistance on arms to them. That would soon buck their ideas up.
Shapps is an idiotIt's not going to happen quickly enough. We have entrenched views in the West in support of Israel, hence Shapps' interview this morning.
I can't see Israel backing down.Shapps is an idiot
The US SOD has just been talking about having to respect the laws or war while in Israel so the west isn't going to let Israel do whatever they want
I agree. Certainly not with the government we have. I have no doubt they see the events of the last week as a gift. As you said, hence Shapps interview this morning.It's not going to happen quickly enough. We have entrenched views in the West in support of Israel, hence Shapps' interview this morning.
Excellent opportunity for their culture wars and Islamophobia and Jeremy Hunt has just signalled to energy firms that they have another opportunity to increase profits.I agree. Certainly not with the government we have. I have no doubt they see the events of the last week as a gift. As you said, hence Shapps interview this morning.
What is equally worrying is the lack of sense coming from the Opposition bench.I agree. Certainly not with the government we have. I have no doubt they see the events of the last week as a gift. As you said, hence Shapps interview this morning.
Agreed but they are not in power so it really doesn't matter. If Starmer came out and called for restraint it have make no impact on what Israel does.What is equally worrying is the lack of sense coming from the Opposition bench.
2 supposed legal experts that don’t seem to be able to identify what is or isn’t a war crime.
What's their alternative?
They can hardly green light the actions of a terrorist outfit like Hamas can they. And let's not forget the first priority of any government is to protect its people.
There's an argument that the response was not proportionate, or lead to more suffering of innocent people, but that argument doesn't stand up well when you consider Hamas have fired 150 missiles into Israel in the last 24 hrs.
But realistically Israel isn't going to stop the bombardment until the incoming rockets from Hamas stop. (I'm not saying that's right, I'm just pointing it out)And yet the death toll is heavy in Israel’s “favour”.
Why has it got to be black and white? Hamas are scum, the Israeli government has the capacity to not be so scummy and chooses not to.
Why are people rioting and kicking off in the UK wearing flags?
Because they don't like to see thousands of people killed?
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