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Leaves a bad taste somewhere doesn't it. He is, of course, innocent and should be treated as such but... it's rather uncomfortable, isn't it.
Not that I’ve seen any evidence that she has, but her getting back together with him wouldn’t prove anything about the original accusations.If they are, she should be charged with wasting police time then...
Hopefully, after the accusations, shes has long gone from him for her own sake.
Agreed, a bit like Ched Evans too if I'm not mistaken. Horrible c**t.Leaves a bad taste somewhere doesn't it. He is, of course, innocent and should be treated as such but... it's rather uncomfortable, isn't it.
Yeah, not people you'd be impressed with if your daughter brought them home to meet you.Agreed, a bit like Ched Evans too if I'm not mistaken. Horrible c**t.
We've all seen the video/heard the audio of him assaulting and abusing his girlfriend. That's irrefutable facts.Or maybe he's innocent of the charges faced ?
Who knows , none of us here do
Why though? Why would they bottle it? Money? Pressure? Overburdened with cases?We've all seen the video/heard the audio of him assaulting and abusing his girlfriend. That's irrefutable facts.
My mate who's a detective said the CPS have bottled it, they had all the evidence they needed to do a victimless prosecution.
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So I'm guessing he will play for united again?
Not so sure.Yes I will imagine he will have a short break and then be back at training, they will see him as a valuable asset.
Shame they haven't gone through with it thenWe've all seen the video/heard the audio of him assaulting and abusing his girlfriend. That's irrefutable facts.
My mate who's a detective said the CPS have bottled it, they had all the evidence they needed to do a victimless prosecution.
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because they don't feel they can get a jury to convict, it's really hard to even get convictions in cases where there is almost impossible to deny evidenceWhy though? Why would they bottle it? Money? Pressure? Overburdened with cases?
because they don't feel they can get a jury to convict, it's really hard to even get convictions in cases where there is almost impossible to deny evidence
ched evans basically admitted rape by having sex with someone in no state to consent but the defence pointed out she liked sex with people consently and he was aquitted
yesDid he admit that?
I know it is semantics but I would prefer to say he has 'not been proven guilty' rather than 'he is innocent'. I guess to some people there is no difference, but I think it is an important differential to makeLeaves a bad taste somewhere doesn't it. He is, of course, innocent and should be treated as such but... it's rather uncomfortable, isn't it.
as in the scottish system, sadly as he never went to trial he is fully legally innocentI know it is semantics but I would prefer to say he has 'not been proven guilty' rather than 'he is innocent'. I guess to some people there is no difference, but I think it is an important differential to make
I know it is semantics but I would prefer to say he has 'not been proven guilty' rather than 'he is innocent'. I guess to some people there is no difference, but I think it is an important differential to make
Innocent until proven guilty is the oldest tenet however.I know it is semantics but I would prefer to say he has 'not been proven guilty' rather than 'he is innocent'. I guess to some people there is no difference, but I think it is an important differential to make
I agree entirely in the eyes of the law, which is really the only thing that matters. But on a personal level I find that hard to stomach.Innocent until proven guilty is the oldest tenet however.
It doesn't look good in certain circumstances. The main problem is though that it's the road to anarchy, and genuinely innocent people being persecuted if we go full-on no smoke without fire.I agree entirely in the eyes of the law, which is really the only thing that matters. But on a personal level I find that hard to stomach.
Yeah, I agree, but I wouldn't want him here at our club.It doesn't look good in certain circumstances. The main problem is though that it's the road to anarchy, and genuinely innocent people being persecuted if we go full-on no smoke without fire.
Don't get me wrong, I'm deeply uncomfortable about Greenwood still being a free man but, ultimately, he has to be judged by the same basic rules and laws as the rest of us... even if it's not entirely beyond possibility that he's paid a load of people off / been able to manipulate the system with cash.
There’s a case of of rape in Italy at the moment, they were only Serie C players though, but they got sentenced to 6 years; I’d be amazed if they actually serve it though.There are multiple cases in the last five or so years involving very high profile footballers that have had fairly damning evidence (in this case audio, in others actual admission that the victim said 'no') and still no convictions. It is a fairly damning indictment on how hard it is to actually send someone down for sexual assault/rape.
He said she was too drunk to consent?
I read that apparently the key witnesses were no longer coming forward. Would point to lack of evidence to convict beyond reasonable doubt.We've all seen the video/heard the audio of him assaulting and abusing his girlfriend. That's irrefutable facts.
My mate who's a detective said the CPS have bottled it, they had all the evidence they needed to do a victimless prosecution.
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Is it only a criminal offence to intimidate witnesses or is it an offence to interfereWas never fully convinced on the Evans case but I'm more convinced on this one that this wrong un should be behind bars, I mean, we've all heard it right? A few witnesses paid to back out here I'm guessing.
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See you’ve heard him tell her to open her legs, and generally being unsavoury (might I add - you’re assuming it’s him) without the key witness to say this the defence will ask them to prove it was greenwood.Was never fully convinced on the Evans case but I'm more convinced on this one that this wrong un should be behind bars, I mean, we've all heard it right? A few witnesses paid to back out here I'm guessing.
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Conveniently they also appear to have moved on immeasurably on the field in the last 12 months.Brand image of Man United affected if they welcome him back into the fold? Damage to the brand may outweigh his value to them as a footballer. Think there may be a backlash wherever he tries to rock up to be honest. That recording was beyond disgusting.
They are having a baby together.
Yes, the bloke she said raped her. She's having a kid with him.
Both wrong uns
I'm sure the conversation was something along the lines of...The family are looking forward to the babies arrival
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