Where's the middle finger emote when I want it
Where's the middle finger emote when I want itGood. Fire away.
Where's the middle finger emote when I want it
fxxk offSo, no cohesive arguments then.
fxxk off
Should have crystalised it and bet it on him winning. I got a very good price on the night as I did with BrexitOn a much smaller scale, I did it with the Trump election, I had a big chunk of pension based in North American. I'd had a decent year and wanted to crystalize that and I was unsure if he'd win. When he did, I thought I'd dodged a bullet moving them out but in hindsight they continued to rise.
Because there will initially be a small downturn. I think we're all expecting that, my guess is they'll move in the short term and then by back in when they feel it's low and make even more on the way back up. Seems a sensible approach whether you're in Government or not. Wouldn't you?
Fuck allBased on what?
Which is why we take a relatively short term hit. The longer term I believe we will prospersee I don't agree. The more I read about operating under the WTO the more it sounds like a bit of a nightmare. Hence why many countries are trying to form trading blocks of their own.
Now I am far from an expert and it all seems very complicated which is why I'm prepared to listen to anyone who can explain, or link to someone explaining, why ripping up all our current agreements and starting from scratch in the WTO is a good idea.
Opinion.Based on what?
Which is exactly what some amongst want. They expect the right to have another vote - but would then probably want to deny the right the following week when the EU might have done something distasteful to the UK public. Or maybe they want a vote every week on thw same subject?There shouldn't be a second referendum! The British public voted and the vote should stand. Having a second referendum would be like saying we didn't like the result, so let's just keep on having new votes until we get the result we want.
Or even better a pro-German EU Govt? LolWe signed two political treaties with no say from the British public at all
A pro European government could make us join the euro and we couldn’t do a damn thing to stop it. A chilling prospect.
That is because pro-EU noise was all around. The politicians were hoodwinked somewhat into believing the British public wanted to have closer ties. At course in amongst 20 or more other key factors influencing which party to vote for 'closer ties with the EU' was simoly neutralising anti EU sentiment. Only when the vote on the specific issue of being in the EU did we find that most that care don't want to be in it anymoreEvery government (until very recently) has got in with a manifesto and strengthening ties with Europe and the EU not severing them.
Maybe MartCov has room in his German bunker for you? Please - feel free to go anytime you want.Pending the unfolding disaster.
That's a fair point. Most of the British public are probably not anti-EU. They just don't want to be a part of it!...and nothing has chaneed wit regards to the key parties and the only true anti EU party never got close to getting power.
Maybe MartCov has room in his German bunker for you? Please - feel free to go anytime you want.
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Should have crystalised it and bet it on him winning. I got a very good price on the night as I did with Brexit
Which is why we take a relatively short term hit. The longer term I believe we will prosper
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That is because pro-EU noise was all around. The politicians were hoodwinked somewhat into believing the British public wanted to have closer ties. At course in amongst 20 or more other key factors influencing which party to vote for 'closer ties with the EU' was simoly neutralising anti EU sentiment. Only when the vote on the specific issue of being in the EU did we find that most that care don't want to be in it anymore
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That's a fair point. Most of the British public are probably not anti-EU. They just don't want to be a part of it!
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Or even better a pro-German EU Govt? Lol
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Believe it or not but they have the internet in Germany too.
Same to you. Other than people speculating, show me a factual (Not scaremongering) that suggests we'll implode within hours of a no deal!
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Hopefully once Tony has settled in, they will invite you over too.Believe it or not but they have the internet in Germany too.
The answer is in your own post clintWhy does that mean we'll take a short term hit. I would say far from it. Can you explain?
The answer is in your own post clint
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As I see it, if we don't sort a deal we will go from free trade with the EU to operating under WTO rules.
We then have a costly and time consuming period where we negotiate to try and get us back to the position we're in now with our current biggest trading partner.
That's before you start on negotiating with the rest of the world. We've already submitted one WTO schedule which was reject by the US, Brazil and a couple of others. I don't see this as being a short term hit.
As I keep saying, I'm far from an expert, but if I'm wrong I just want some to tell me why with a bit of detail.
I am no expert either Clint. What I do think is that where there is a will there is a way.As I see it, if we don't sort a deal we will go from free trade with the EU to operating under WTO rules.
We then have a costly and time consuming period where we negotiate to try and get us back to the position we're in now with our current biggest trading partner.
That's before you start on negotiating with the rest of the world. We've already submitted one WTO schedule which was reject by the US, Brazil and a couple of others. I don't see this as being a short term hit.
As I keep saying, I'm far from an expert, but if I'm wrong I just want some to tell me why with a bit of detail.
I am no expert either Clint. What I do think is that where there is a will there is a way.
A bit like if your domestic relationship breaks down. You move out of the family home. You may not be happy with your new alternative accommodation...but it will do for the short term while you either work to change it so you are happy in it, or look around for something better.
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Make hay with each one while the sun shinesBut if you move into 160 odd new relationships with partners who all have different demands I think it's fair to say your life will become a car crash!!
Make hay with each one while the sun shines
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I am no expert either Clint. What I do think is that where there is a will there is a way.
A bit like if your domestic relationship breaks down. You move out of the family home. You may not be happy with your new alternative accommodation...but it will do for the short term while you either work to change it so you are happy in it, or look around for something better.
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The Remainers are no doubt preparing a campaign for 'best out of 3'. Project fear mk II is really ramping up, radio 5 in the last 2 days has been like a remain party political broadcast, massively biased, I'm quite disgusted at the BBC.
What this 2nd referendum is all about is reversing the largest democratic vote ever in this country, it shows how politicians treat the electorate with disdain and how out of touch they are,
There will be ample opportunity to reverse the EU decision at upcoming General Elections if the electorate wants to, unlike te EU where you have no say in policy.
and some politicians want 16 yr olds to vote while simultaneously branding the electorate as unable to make a good decision, cognitive dissonance ++
I mentioned some earlier, (James O'Brien, 3 men i n the pub), I even said I they acknowledge they are committed remainers and asked for a link that presents a contrary opinion. Nothing so far.
If you want some less forthrightly pro-remain follows, @EmporersNewC @davidallengreen @OliverBullough @JolyonMaugham @faisalislam are all pretty good.
None of them will offer substantiated contrary opinions to those you've already discovered though, sadly. They're just a bit less preachy than @mrjamesob & @JasonJHunter.
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