Sick Boy
Super Moderator
EU citizens? Would be interested in seeing that link.
It doesn't work in other countries. I showed a link where they have failed to deport 78% of those where they went through the legal system and had all the correct paperwork. And the backlog is getting bigger all the time. And you say it works.
So you are saying we don't have millions of homeless and the NHS can cope?No twisting, you're the one who repeats things parrot-fashion, and are again with your immigration whilst ignoring the fact that if they leave they'll leave a big hole.
You happy to pay more tax to plug the hole of net contribution when we get rid of everybody? You happy to pay more tax to train more people to plug the skills vacancies?
There's a highly disturbing trend to scapegoat around here, because nobody wants to face up to the solutions. First they came for the Greeks...
So you are saying we don't have millions of homeless and the NHS can cope?
Have put it up before. But as usual when I did you went quiet for your normal 12 hours or more then came out with more points you have came out with countless times.EU citizens? Would be interested in seeing that link.
Playing twisting of words again I see.
Who on here says anything good about Farage?
We already have millions of homeless. So why is it good that every 2 to 3 years another million come in when the present massive problem hasn't been solved? You agree that the NHS can't cope. So this problem also gets worse.
ExplainIt's strange how 5% of the English population are able to bring down the country!
EU law states that you have the right to move to another country for 3 months, after that you have to have a job to legally stay. If there are people not working, the government could have already told them to leave. It works in other EU countries.
Let's just hope that there is still water when we turn the taps on post-Brexit
Have put it up before. But as usual when I did you went quiet for your normal 12 hours or more then came out with more points you have came out with countless times.
lolSo you are saying we don't have millions of homeless and the NHS can cope?
Absolute bollocks as usual. But at least you get your normal pat on the back.It was to save you from further embarrassment to be honest.
That's not true either.
Absolute bollocks as usual. But at least you get your normal pat on the back.
Exactly. You have no answer for what is a massive problem. So LOL is the best you can come out with.
It's strange how 5% of the English population are able to bring down the country!
It's strange how some think 5% can bring down the entire NHS
Still, it's encouraging that so many people want to fund training for British doctors and nurses, no?It most likely would do as it is underfunded and understaffed. Much like the UK in general.
You keep chuntering on about net contribution but are only referring to actual tax receipts against benefit costs...........conveniently as usual you don't cost in any other strains and costs on the NHS, Social services, transport, education or any other part of the infrastructure. That net contribution is completely torn to shreds when these other considerations are accounted for. Not to mention, pollution, environmental, destruction of green field sites and housing demand issues.No twisting, you're the one who repeats things parrot-fashion, and are again with your immigration whilst ignoring the fact that if they leave they'll leave a big hole.
You happy to pay more tax to plug the hole of net contribution when we get rid of everybody? You happy to pay more tax to train more people to plug the skills vacancies?
There's a highly disturbing trend to scapegoat around here, because nobody wants to face up to the solutions. First they came for the Greeks...
Yes it is
Sir Ernie!!
No it isn't - there is a rule but the individual has rights of residence and the law states only in exceptional circumstances would deportation be permitted
Now tell me this. If someone comes as employed and leaves after 1 week that employment what is the eu law then?
Well actually all I said was that I suspect Farage might return to stir up things again, and in your usual style you see that as me praising him.
But as you've raised the subject, yes give me Nigel Farage any day over your idols Corbyn, McDonnell, Thornberry and Abbott.
Workers - residence rights
In order to get healthcare and to open a bank account in Italy, I had to prove I was working with a employment contract. As I stated before (but got accused of telling lies) I was visited by the local police at 7.30am one Sunday to check my documents. Sadly I also lost had a period of unemployment before this after an initial job offer turned out to be not what I thought and I would have been entitled to nothing and not able to seek help from the state
Scapegoats?
Yes the NHS has been underfunded. But are you trying to say that without the population explosion we have had the NHS would be in exactly the same position?
You keep going on about it being the fault of the Tories. So what has Labour done when in power? It seems like you are a Labour supporter as to you they have done nothing wrong.....or you won't mention them as it isn't good.
Labour have been in power for 13 of the last 20 years. So why do you blame just the Tories?
You have just expanded health workers to all immigrants. Brexit on immigration is about controlling who comes in, controlling numbers and quality and security. There is not a chance that working EU people will be asked to leave or skilled EU people rejected.
Except none of that dramatic tosh will occur and once the greedy cretins in Brussels have milked us for an extortionate sum, all will be settled by big business in the interests of big business !'The number of pensioners has increased by a third in the last 30 years and he said the system had not been able to deal with the increase in the number of elderly people in particular.'
This is going to continue. It is the same in Germany. It is nothing to do with the EU. We are living longer. Luckily there are younger people from abroad working in the NHS or the situation would be even worse. But, ignore the lack of investment and forward planning and blame Mad Merkel, drunken Juncker and the EU in general. Let's see what happens when the Brexodus gets in full swing after we have crashed out of the EU.
They are so minimal in number it's laughable and their extreme rubbish does not meet many ears in truth. Most people are not blatant racists ( I hate that stupid over used term ) , they just see the common sense factors affecting daily lives, crimes, NHS meltdown, traffic and transport meltdowns and extremism and murder from mainly Muslim lunatics.There is a chance. Just depends how badly this pans out. What starts off as racism against a smaller group of Eastern European unskilled workers can rapidly expand. National Action have been outstandingly open that they believe in the original manifesto of the NSDAP. There were people who believed in this before - also in Coventry in the 70s - but they were underground and being surveilled by special branch. They were training for the revolution which they thought would be a left wing revolution and they were to be the underground resistance.
Today, the right is being propagated by MSM ( e.g. mail, Telegraph, Sun ) and there is even a Farage programm spewing out distorted and sometimes totally inaccurate "facts". The revolution these people ( right wing "combat" groups, are training for is a right wing revolution when "we" claim "our" country back.
This is very disconcerting and has arisen because of the raging Brexit debate which has emboldened this scum on the far right.
Theleave propaganda revolts me, but is gladly taken on board by many people.
Except none of that dramatic tosh will occur and once the greedy cretins in Brussels have milked us for an extortionate sum, all will be settled by big business in the interests of big business !
They are so minimal in number it's laughable and their extreme rubbish does not meet many ears in truth. Most people are not blatant racists ( I hate that stupid over used term ) , they just see the common sense factors affecting daily lives, crimes, NHS meltdown, traffic and transport meltdowns and extremism and murder from mainly Muslim lunatics.
Are you suggesting that the greedy cretins are in Brussels? I think you should look closer to home. The Brexodus will come and had already started in smaller numbers. Net immigration is falling and banks are looking for alternative sites in the EU as a precaution.
You twist almost anything anyone writes, you really should be in politics yourself !Most people are not blatant racists, but the debate has been used by racists and has emboldened racists. The common sense factors ( hate that when people bring the so-called "common sense" into it as it ususally is not common sense ) affecting daily lives which you quote, are not all the fault of nasty foreigners or the EU. I don't know the statistic on murder by Muslims against murder by "others" in the UK. Maybe you do?
You twist almost anything anyone writes, you really should be in politics yourself !
Yes, maybe. Could you answer why was Nigel Farage at this rally for Roy Moor? - "Judge Roy Moore Speech at his Senate Race Rally will leave you speechless". This bigot was supported by Bannon and apparently Farage. Sick fxxkers. Farage is being seen at all the wrong places - AfD, Roy Moor Rally. Whatb is going on? It is more than just Brexit.
Paranoid nonsense. I watched that speech farage gave. It was just explaining why brexit and trump won. It wasn't a racist speech.
No it wasn't racist. Roy Moor is a racist though. Anyway the whole thing is "god, family and country" according to Gorka. Moor is a bigot. Did you listen to him, Gorka und Bannon? They are not messing around. Farage was the least right wing amongst them. You also had intellectual feather weights like Sarah Palin and Hannity backing Moor. I live away from the UK now, but these people are far to the right of what I knew in the UK. I cannot imagine the UK politicians that I knew in the past sharing a stage with these unsavoury people - and with the AfD leadership in Germany. It shows Farage for what he is - an opportunist with little moral courage. A hero for some in the UK though.
They are so minimal in number it's laughable and their extreme rubbish does not meet many ears in truth. Most people are not blatant racists ( I hate that stupid over used term ) , they just see the common sense factors affecting daily lives, crimes, NHS meltdown, traffic and transport meltdowns and extremism and murder from mainly Muslim lunatics.
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