Farage is nothing to do with anything. But you like to bring him into asmuch as you can.
The point you keep missing is Abbott is seen as a joke from all sides. Yet she has a high up position in the Labour party. Corbyn is supposed to be our saviour. Yet he wants out of the EU.
If you only had a single view you would say this yourself. But it all depends on the point you want to make at the time.
Would you like to explain how I tried to deflect anything?you've just done exactly what I said you do with regard to deflecting from the tories. David Davis categorically said that two important agencies would not leave the UK.
One has announced it's going and the other makes it's decision this week but it seems they will be following yet not a word about that.
UK 'ready to pay more for Brexit'
Just close your eyes really hard and say Brexit is great over and over again and it will come true!
This most certainly is not another concession, the UK holds all of the cards! They need us more than we need them!!
You’re forgetting we have a very weak government and the only reason May is still there is to stop corbyn getting in.
We could have 4 aces but if you don’t know how to play them you will still lose.
We have been repeatedly told that the EU is about to fall apart. If that's the case then it wouldn't be able to dictate everything to the UK, would it?
Is there any good news as it seems to be one thing after another today
The Tories have voted that animals can't feel pain as part of the EU bill, marking the beginning of our anti-science Brexit
European Banking Authority will move from London to Paris | Metro News
This thread is worth a read concerning issues around agencies like the EMA leaving
And an investigation in to Vote Leave financing has been opened.
We have been repeatedly told that the EU is about to fall apart. If that's the case then it wouldn't be able to dictate everything to the UK, would it?
Labour has as many jokers as aces.You’re forgetting we have a very weak government and the only reason May is still there is to stop corbyn getting in.
We could have 4 aces but if you don’t know how to play them you will still lose.
So you can't see it all going wrong? Even Merkel is on dodgy ground. And she has led Germany in the right direction. The racist vote is going up. There is unrest in several EU countries. Countless billions are being lost to fraud each year. And the trough they feed from is getting too big.We have been repeatedly told that the EU is about to fall apart. If that's the case then it wouldn't be able to dictate everything to the UK, would it?
Another election in Germany can't be good news for the negotiations. Merkel will be concentrating on that. Even if its called today you'd think it would be the other side of Xmas so you're losing another couple of months.So you can't see it all going wrong? Even Merkel is on dodgy ground.
Just heard the 40billion figure, they're being completely unrealistic in their expectations now, I think we should just walk away.
I thought we were supposed to pay whatever the EU wanted?No one can say if it's unrealistic or not because none of us no the detail or what future pay outs we will get. It could be a great deal, it could be awful. None of us know.
Personally, even if it does prove to be on the high side, I think it will be money well spent if it stops us walking away with no deal.
What I did find strange was that the cabinet has apparently said they will back May but need to know exactly what we will get for 40 Billion. Well surely you would want a comprehensive break down whether it was 5 billion or 100 billion?
I thought we were supposed to pay whatever the EU wanted?
Numbers are not even being spoken about properly yet. Just what they want.us to pay for including loans not given out yet and improvements to infrastructures in other EU countries. This includes Italy where a massive amount each year is lost to fraud.
Some people need to make their minds up about how much the EU wants. If it is too much should we threaten to walk away without a deal? Or should we pay whatever even if it reaches 100 billion?
No one can say if it's unrealistic or not because none of us no the detail or what future pay outs we will get. It could be a great deal, it could be awful. None of us know.
Personally, even if it does prove to be on the high side, I think it will be money well spent if it stops us walking away with no deal.
What I did find strange was that the cabinet has apparently said they will back May but need to know exactly what we will get for 40 Billion. Well surely you would want a comprehensive break down whether it was 5 billion or 100 billion?
There isn't anything we can offer on yet though. The negotiations are about what we are willing to pay for. The EU won't say how much it will be. That will come later. And there is the problem.We don't know what we're paying for so it's pointless debating until it becomes clearer.
I think walking away without a deal will be disastrous for this country so I would do what I could to avoid it. Hopefully they will except this offer and things can start moving forward.
Is there any good news as it seems to be one thing after another today
The Tories have voted that animals can't feel pain as part of the EU bill, marking the beginning of our anti-science Brexit
European Banking Authority will move from London to Paris | Metro News
This thread is worth a read concerning issues around agencies like the EMA leaving
And an investigation in to Vote Leave financing has been opened.
What about an investigation into vote Remain? Millions were pumped into propaganda leaflets. We were told there would be a recession. We were told the cuts would start on Friday. We were told by Obama we would go to the back of the queue. We were also told by the BBC it would be a disaster.
It's getting desperate now. No one says the leave campaign was perfect, but it's the same one or two things that keep cropping up. I could go on for days about how the remain campaign bullied and feared people into voting for it.
Enough is enough.
Not strictly Brexit but an indication of our standing in the world currently. For the first time since it was formed in 1946 there will be no British judge on the International Court of Justice.
Dave’s links have nothing to do with either campaign. Dave’s links are the reality of what’s happening since we voted leave.
Think there's some truth in that. Obviously you'd wouldn't have no culture at all you'd have everything mixed in together indistinguishable from each other. The trick is to get the balance right. You want multiculturalism to gain the benefits of those outside influences but you don't want to tip over in to that dominating everything.“I want Germany to be German. I want France to be French. If you try to make everything multicultural, you will not have any culture in the end."
No doubt he'll get hounded for it, but Morrissey is absolutely right:
“I want Germany to be German. I want France to be French. If you try to make everything multicultural, you will not have any culture in the end."
I believe this factor being the case in Britain combined with Merkel's policy on migrants, they both helped swing the vote for leave.
If you read the link they are looking at very specific things for which they say evidence has come to light. Seems to be focused on 3 organisations not declaring spending correctly which could mean the Leave campaign spent more than was allowed under the European Union Referendum Act."The Electoral Commission has launched a new investigation into spending at the EU referendum by Vote Leave."
If you read the link they are looking at very specific things for which they say evidence has come to light. Seems to be focused on 3 organisations not declaring spending correctly which could mean the Leave campaign spent more than was allowed under the European Union Referendum Act.
I would expect them to investigate that and I would expect the same if there was evidence of similar from Vote Remain.
Doesn't seem to be any details on the Electoral Commission site about an investigation into remain. There was the initial investigation following both side filing their returns, as with any election, but there doesn't seem to be anything to indicate further action against remain.They are investigating both sides but for some reason only one side was reported in the headlines.
We best all stop drinking tea from Asia, eating chips from Belgium in fact we better stop eating potatoes full stop. Bloody foreign vegetables coming over here stealing the turnips job.
Have you any idea how much of Britain’s historical culture is based on foreign influence? It works both ways as well, Britain has had huge influence on cultures around the world. When I went to Sri Lanka many moons ago everything in the hotel stopped for elevens every day tea and sponge cake for all, guests and staff. That’s a British tradition that’s long died out at home but continues in former British empires.
Cultures blending isn’t a new phenomenon caused by the arrival of the EU. It’s been happening for centuries. In fact you could say it’s traditional.
There is but you have to look real hard, it is biased reporting.Doesn't seem to be any details on the Electoral Commission site about an investigation into remain. There was the initial investigation following both side filing their returns, as with any election, but there doesn't seem to be anything to indicate further action against remain.
If you read the link they are looking at very specific things for which they say evidence has come to light. Seems to be focused on 3 organisations not declaring spending correctly which could mean the Leave campaign spent more than was allowed under the European Union Referendum Act.
I would expect them to investigate that and I would expect the same if there was evidence of similar from Vote Remain.
Be quicker if you just put up a link so we could all take a look.There is but you have to look real hard, it is biased reporting.
Be quicker if you just put up a link so we could all take a look.
You're using cliches to try and make a nothing point really.
Of course every culture came from somewhere, but we are now established as pretty individual. That's what has made Europe so great. The EU is actually doing its best to spoil that, as are many political parties across Europe individually. The Swedish liberal party have now announced that they will work towards making the EU a federation of states. In other words get rid of nation states.
As Dave says, you need to have a balance. We're not seeing that anymore. Britain was first, now we are seeing it in France, Germany, Sweden etc.
I respect the individuality of different cultures. Multiculturalism ruins that.
Which article are you looking at? The only recent one I can find on the FT is 'Investigation into Vote Leave campaign spending reopens' which makes no mention of an investigation in to remain.Both are being investigated - The FT confirmed this in article - the link will not work.
Cliches? Hardly. How many foreign influenced cliches do you want to get rid of out of curiosity. Will you be happy when we’re all cave dwellers again? Maybe you’d like to go back far enough so we’re back to the first settlers who first colonised the UK following the receding ice flows? Given that they came from Africa does that mean we’d all have to start blacking up?
The UK is a nation born out of globalisation. A failure to grasp that has made an army of little Englanders who have no clue as to how we arrived where we are today who can’t see that without foreign influence we wouldn’t be a shadow of the country we are. It’s people with your mentality that will see this country left behind.
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