The Walking Dead - Season 7 (18 Viewers)

olderskyblue · Oct 25, 2016

Otis said:
Yep, totally agree.

I might seek therapy.

Funnily enough, I watched the episode, thought it was totally brilliant, but then sat down and reflected upon it and started picking it all apart.

Please come visit me at a the Caludon Centre asap.

Most of us are already there Otis, just look around mate...

Otis · Oct 25, 2016

Now, here's a question...

How long will you stick with the Walking Dead for?

There is talk of TWELVE seasons.

1. Stick with it to the end, come what may?

2. Already waning in interest or given up? (Think it was starting to wane badly, personally, but Negan has given it fresh impetus)

3. Will give it set number of seasons whatever?

For me, I just can see no way I could give it twelve seasons, not even ten. Think it needs to end soon. Resolve the Negan storyline and then reach a conclusion, new dawn, or perpetual endless pile of shit.

I think this season and then the next and that will be it for me. The cast are getting older, the stories, though new baddies introduced, are still the same battle of wills and of survival. Kill or be killed.

Let the comic run and run, but please bring the TV series to its own conclusion sooner rather than later.

Doctor now says its lights out and time for my medicine.

Nick · Oct 25, 2016

Can't see me getting through this season Especially if it just goes the predictable way.

Otis · Oct 25, 2016

Nick said:
Can't see me getting through this season Especially if it just goes the predictable way.

Well yep, even though it is a new baddie it is still the same challenges, the same fight for survival, the same peril.

Same shit, different day.

Otis · Oct 25, 2016

They could rename the programme 'Seven different degrees of Shit.'

olderskyblue · Oct 25, 2016

Otis said:
They could rename the programme 'Seven different degrees of Shit.'

Or the crawling dead...

Liquid Gold · Oct 25, 2016

I'll stick with it until I get bored, probably a few seasons left in me yet. All this over analysis of the show confuses me, it's never been a high brow quality show, first season was typical zombie stuff, second was as slow as anything. at points the acting and writing has been laughable.

Try and take it at face value, goodies and baddies and monsters in a post apocalypse world and its good. Try and look at it as a modern The Wire and you're going to be disappointed.

Otis · Oct 25, 2016

Liquid Gold said:
I'll stick with it until I get bored, probably a few seasons left in me yet. All this over analysis of the show confuses me, it's never been a high brow quality show, first season was typical zombie stuff, second was as slow as anything. at points the acting and writing has been laughable.

Try and take it at face value, goodies and baddies and monsters in a post apocalypse world and its good. Try and look at it as a modern The Wire and you're going to be disappointed.

Never saw the Wire, so can't comment.

I've been comparing it more with Beckett and Chekhov.

chiefdave · Oct 25, 2016

I nearly gave up last season, if it had been a couple of episodes longer I would have.

Thought the first episode of this season was decent so will stick with it but if it goes back to the same old formula it will be hard to stay interested.

Otis · Oct 25, 2016

chiefdave said:
I nearly gave up last season, if it had been a couple of episodes longer I would have.

Thought the first episode of this season was decent so will stick with it but if it goes back to the same old formula it will be hard to stay interested.

Yeah, get that.

I am not expecting anything deep and psychological. I just want it to make sense and then remain fresh.

Last season was quite laborious for the most part. Now we have got the killer first episode out if the way, I wonder if it will go that way again.

Surely there's only so many zombies you can kill and baddies you can defeat.

I am very much hoping it all draws to a close within a season or two.

Nick · Oct 25, 2016

Otis said:
Yeah, get that.

I am not expecting anything deep and psychological. I just want it to make sense and then remain fresh.

Last season was quite laborious for the most part. Now we have got the killer first episode out if the way, I wonder if it will go that way again.

Surely there's only so many zombies you can kill and baddies you can defeat.

I am very much hoping it all draws to a close within a season or two.

That's the thing, it follows the same pattern of finding a new "base", meeting a few new people, somebody dies, somebody does something stupid and dies, somehow the zombies get into the base.

Now I know zombies aren't realistic anyway if being picky about it, but some of the dumb shit they do is annoying.

Pipehitterz · Oct 25, 2016

So Glad my first impressions of this series, I turned out to be correct.

I would be heartbroken to have put in 7 seasons and just given up because it turned to shit.

Watching 5 seasons of heroes once the car crash of season 2 was done, I should have stopped, but the investment has to be rewarded.

Otis · Oct 25, 2016

Nick said:
That's the thing, it follows the same pattern of finding a new "base", meeting a few new people, somebody dies, somebody does something stupid and dies, somehow the zombies get into the base.

Now I know zombies aren't realistic anyway if being picky about it, but some of the dumb shit they do is annoying.

Yep, exactly.

I think if they didn't do such dumb things I wouldn't get into the analysis so much.

It's when I see massive, baffling flaws that then have me starting to unlock the whole thing.

Some things the characters do are unbelievably dumb. We are in the horror film territory of 'there's a psycho killer loose in the house, bumping us off one by one, let's split up!'

stupot07 · Oct 25, 2016

I thought it was a decent start to the new series. I feel slightly disturbed by the extreme Violence.

Agree with Otis, there isn't a redeeming feature to Neegan, he's just a psychopathic sadistic baddie.

Not sure where it can go, as there is no way they can defeat neegan and his army.

The other annoyance of taking so long since the last season, I've completely forgotten what's gone on and about some of the lesser characters.

Oh well, a good start and got me hooked for rest of the season.

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Otis · Oct 25, 2016

stupot07 said:
I thought it was a decent start to the new series. I feel slightly disturbed by the extreme Violence.

Agree with Otis, there isn't a redeeming feature to Neegan, he's just a psychopathic sadistic baddie.

Not sure where it can go, as there is no way they can defeat neegan and his army.

The other annoyance of taking so long since the last season, I've completely forgotten what's gone on and about some of the lesser characters.

Oh well, a good start and got me hooked for rest of the season.

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Yep, agree.

Negan is a bit comic book baddie, but it has breathed a bit of new life into the old dog.

Yeah, on the violence thing, a number of critics have described it as torture porn.

I just wonder that after the 6 month break, the producers felt it needed bigger shocks and went full tilt in the violence as a result.

Nick · Oct 25, 2016

Otis said:
Yep, agree.

Negan is a bit comic book baddie, but it has breathed a bit of new life into the old dog.

Yeah, on the violence thing, a number of critics have described it as torture porn.

I just wonder that after the 6 month break, the producers felt it needed bigger shocks and went full tilt in the violence as a result.

I wouldn't say the violence was that bad.

Yes it showed things like the eye, but most of the time it was just him hitting the floor with a bit of blood splattering. I get more damaged by watching Marley and Me.

Otis · Oct 25, 2016

Well let's say perceived violence then.

As the late, great Alfred Hitchcock always said, 'it's what you don't see that scares you.'

It was a show full of anguish, despair and petrification.

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Nick · Oct 26, 2016

I didn't even get that shock feeling when watching it really

Not like when they had the Red Wedding in Game of Thrones for example.

chiefdave · Oct 26, 2016

Some group in America is up in arms about the violence, the usual 'won't somebody think of the children' rubbish. What do they expect in a program like TWD? Best bit was when the chap representing the group was being interviewed and had to admit he'd never actually seen an episode.

Otis · Oct 26, 2016

Nick said:
I didn't even get that shock feeling when watching it really

Not like when they had the Red Wedding in Game of Thrones for example.

Yeah, but this felt different. With GOT that was a shock moment within an episode.

Think the problem many had with this was it was one long, drawn out hour of menace and brutality. It was perpetual misery and not just one single shock moment.

Nick · Oct 26, 2016

Otis said:
Yeah, but this felt different. With GOT that was a shock moment within an episode.

Think the problem many had with this was it was one long, drawn out hour of menace and brutality. It was perpetual misery and not just one single shock moment.

I don't think it was that brutal or shocking.

Otis · Oct 26, 2016

Nick said:
I don't think it was that brutal or shocking.

For me it was more the elongated despair and abject misery, though they did make sure the squishing and thudding noises from the baseball bat were turned up to the max.

Can I just ask how you watch and about any sound system you have?

I always wear my headphones when I am watching shows and all the sound effects are immensely heightened.

With every bringing down of the bat I had to grimace and felt quite sickened.

Nick · Oct 26, 2016

Otis said:
For me it was more the elongated despair and abject misery, though they did make sure the squishing and thudding noises from the baseball bat were turned up to the max.

Can I just ask how you watch and about any sound system you have?

I always wear my headphones when I am watching shows and all the sound effects are immensely heightened.

With every bringing down of the bat I had to grimace and felt quite sickened.

Just watch it on the tv with surround sound.

Yes the first hit maybe, but it's walking dead! It then drags on the same thing

Otis · Oct 26, 2016

Nick said:
Just watch it on the tv with surround sound.

Yes the first hit maybe, but it's walking dead! It then drags on the same thing

Yeah. Mainly dragging Rick and Daryl to the trailer and back.

stupot07 · Oct 26, 2016

You must watch some "fucked up shit" Nick not to find that brutal and shocking.

I agree with Otis, it was the way it was drawn out and the menace and prolonged misery within that violence that made me think it was brutal. As opposed to deadpool in which you almost laugh when he slices off someone's head.

It was bleak but beautifully crafted, and some fantastic acting from Andrew Lincoln

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Otis · Oct 26, 2016

stupot07 said:
You must watch some "fucked up shit" Nick not to find that brutal and shocking.

I agree with Otis, it was the way it was drawn out and the menace and prolonged misery within that violence that made me think it was brutal. As opposed to deadpool in which you almost laugh when he slices off someone's head.

It was bleak but beautifully crafted, and some fantastic acting from Andrew Lincoln

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Totally agree, Stu.

It was prolonged and drawn out and abject misery all the way, full of wailing and crying and the Negan character revelling in his violence and control.

Torture porn describes it well.

Nick · Oct 26, 2016

stupot07 said:
You must watch some "fucked up shit" Nick not to find that brutal and shocking.

I agree with Otis, it was the way it was drawn out and the menace and prolonged misery within that violence that made me think it was brutal. As opposed to deadpool in which you almost laugh when he slices off someone's head.

It was bleak but beautifully crafted, and some fantastic acting from Andrew Lincoln

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Understand after he has hit people and it shows the first bit where their head is a mess or an eye popping out it is a bit gory. After that though, it just shows him hitting the floor over and over.

Will see how the next one goes

Otis · Oct 26, 2016

Nick said:
Understand after he has hit people and it shows the first bit where their head is a mess or an eye popping out it is a bit gory. After that though, it just shows him hitting the floor over and over.

Will see how the next one goes

That's how your twisted mind works then, Nick.

To my mind Negan was brutally bashing their heads in with a razor sharp baseball bat, splatting brains all over the place with great force and glee.

In your mind he was just hitting the floor with a stick.

It's all about the image the makers conjure up in your mind and to me it was clear they wanted you to believe that Abraham's and Glenn's head and face and brains were being strewn about the field.

It's the art of film making.

Otis · Oct 26, 2016

It's the film makers job to try and make you believe things are actually happening and real.

I think they very much achieved that on Monday.

covcity4life · Oct 26, 2016

it was a great episode.

but TWD achhilies heel is that after amazing premieres it can get average till the amazing finale.

Otis · Oct 26, 2016

covcity4life said:
it was a great episode.

but TWD achhilies heel is that after amazing premieres it can get average till the amazing finale.

Yeah, very true. There's usually loads of padding and filler episodes.

Some of last season's efforts were incredibly dull and without any point.

Bumberclart · Oct 26, 2016

According to the Daily Mail scores of viewers were outraged.

By scores, they mean half a dozen tweets they found.

Otis · Oct 26, 2016

Bumberclart said:
According to the Daily Mail scores of viewers were outraged.

By scores, they mean half a dozen tweets they found.

All sent in by the editorial staff.

dutchman · Oct 26, 2016

Nick said:
I wouldn't say the violence was that bad.

Yes it showed things like the eye, but most of the time it was just him hitting the floor with a bit of blood splattering. I get more damaged by watching Marley and Me.

The 9.00pm broadcast was cut:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-wa...d-uk-broadcast-cut-violence-glenn-final-line/

"The 9pm UK broadcast of the season 7 premiere omitted certain moments on Monday night (October 24), including Glenn's final line.

The edited version cuts down on the number of times Negan can be seen bashing both Abraham and Glenn's heads, while particularly gruesome shots of Glenn's face and body on the floor also weren't shown.

UK viewers may have seen Glenn's face after the initial whack with Negan's barbed wire-covered baseball bat - his eyeball popping out and part of his brain exposed - but only for a couple of seconds.

They did not see the five-second shot of Glenn slowly uttering the line "I will find you" to a devastated Maggie before Negan finishes the job."

skybluegod · Oct 26, 2016

Think it was the perfect start to the season tbh, while some may argue it was unnecessarily drawn out, clearly the whole aim was to show how dark Negan really is.

Also have to agree Stu, Andrew lincoln played the part so brilliantly.

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