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[Macca]

Switch the TV off and avoid the fear porn. USA is bigger than its President. We have had 8 years of Trump and a bloke who didn't know what day it was and we are still here. Democrats need to get the ordinary working man on side for the next election. Not every American lives in the city

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes I know. I just don’t get it though it doesn’t upset me and seems basically true as his base is based on that demographic. Yes it’s a bit condescending but then Trump condescends and dehumanises everyone in worse ways.

Just ran a great campaign apparently. Making up lies about immigrants eating animals was 4D chess

 

[Saddlebrains]

Mental that everyone slates Trump and claims he's evil and terrible for America and the world


Yet America votes him in

Edit* not really a politics man so cba with any debate about it, just find it funny he's chastised this side of the pond yet he's slapped Harris all around the gaff

 

[Evo1883]

We’re going full circle. My original posts were that the anger and resentment is already there before voting and before anyone is called thick (which is largely imagined). It seems to be a chicken and egg thing. Your answers are constantly about being called thick (no one here has called you thick, only asked you to back up your points). I then said it all comes across as insecurity and am told that’s exactly the kind of talking down you hate but it was in response to your actions.

My point is this


Saying America is going to the pits because of uneducated white people is not helpful and not true , many of these same uneducated white people helped vote in Obama and Biden

 

[djr8369]

. Democrats need to get the ordinary working man on side for the next election. Not every American lives in the city

There’s no way to get them on side I think it’s a case to wait until they are driven away by the republicans.

 

[Evo1883]

Yes I know. I just don’t get it though it doesn’t upset me and seems basically true as his base is based on that demographic. Yes it’s a bit condescending but then Trump condescends and dehumanises everyone in worse ways.

It's rude and obnoxious , most people with poor educations are from the poorest families and backgrounds .

Rich educated people fuck us over daily all over the world mate , most of your politicians good or bad are highly educated people

 

[djr8369]

My point is this


Saying America is going to the pits because of uneducated white people is not helpful and not true , many of these same uneducated white people helped vote in Obama and Biden

I don’t claim it is helpful but you claim they vote for Trump because of that attitude yet the attitude is in response to voting for him.

 

[Sick Boy]

Mental that everyone slates Trump and claims he's evil and terrible for America and the world


Yet America votes him in

Edit* not really a politics man so cba with any debate about it, just find it funny he's chastised this side of the pond yet he's slapped Harris all around the gaff

He’s been found liable for sexual abuse, he’s hardly a stand up guy.

 

[djr8369]

It's rude and obnoxious , most people with poor educations are from the poorest families and backgrounds .

Rich educated people fuck us over daily all over the world mate , most of your politicians good or bad are highly educated people

It’s not the educated people it’s the rich people so America votes in Trump with Musk as assistant.

 

[Evo1883]

I don’t claim it is helpful but you claim they vote for Trump because of that attitude yet the attitude is in response to voting for him.

I don't claim they vote for trump because of that , but it certainly won't help

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Switch the TV off and avoid the fear porn. USA is bigger than its President. We have had 8 years of Trump and a bloke who didn't know what day it was and we are still here. Democrats need to get the ordinary working man on side for the next election. Not every American lives in the city

Joe Biden was the first US President to stand on a picket line with union workers and Democrats also saved a major union pension fund. Trump put a union buster in charge of the industrial relations department.

Still, facts don’t matter

 

[Evo1883]

It’s not the educated people it’s the rich people so America votes in Trump with Musk as assistant.

Many educated people will have voted trump too ..

41% of college graduates

It's not the reason trump won .

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Many educated people will have voted trump too ..

41% of college graduates

It's not the reason trump won .

Genuinely would like to know the reason

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

The polls were actually bang on. My mistake was thinking they weren’t

Even if he was the most unpopular VP candidate in history… the election is for President and as I mentioned, Trump’s approval was higher than Biden’s.

Harris didn’t do anything to differentiate herself from Biden’s Administration aside from word salad about being a ‘new generation of leadership’. So she suffered the downsides of being attached to Biden’s legacy without the benefit of being the incumbent.

Fun fact, she has been unable to outperform a single county Biden won 2020. She’s haemorrhaging votes amongst ethnic minorities, white men and apparently even white women in some states. That takes some going!

 

[Evo1883]

Genuinely would like to know the reason

Class , poverty , misinformation , anger , immigration

Can be many things

 

[djr8369]

It's rude and obnoxious , most people with poor educations are from the poorest families and backgrounds .

Rich educated people fuck us over daily all over the world mate , most of your politicians good or bad are highly educated people

Educated people are not the enemy and the attitude they are is dangerous.

Many educated people will have voted trump too ..

41% of college graduates

It's not the reason trump won .

Look, the single strongest correlating factor in voting for Trump is lack of a college degree. Of course other people voted for him but you have to look at the main factors.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Even if he was the most unpopular VP candidate in history… the election is for President and as I mentioned, Trump’s approval was higher than Biden’s.

Harris didn’t do anything to differentiate herself from Biden’s Administration aside from word salad about being a ‘new generation of leadership’. So she suffered the downsides of being attached to Biden’s legacy without the benefit of being the incumbent.

Fun fact, she has been unable to outperform a single county Biden won 2020. She’s haemorrhaging votes amongst ethnic minorities, white men and apparently even white women in some states. That takes some going!

It sure does when Trump is responsible for women’s deaths by restricting their right to choose. I do not understand how any woman could vote for him

 

[Saddlebrains]

He’s been found liable for sexual abuse, he’s hardly a stand up guy.

Yet America feel hes the man to improve them

Mad

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yet America feel hes the man to improve them

Mad

They also felt that way about George W Bush



Twice

 

[Otis]

Subs bench at best, for my part.

 

[Macca]

Joe Biden was the first US President to stand on a picket line with union workers and Democrats also saved a major union pension fund. Trump put a union buster in charge of the industrial relations department.

Still, facts don’t matter

Democrats themselves are making the same observation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Democrats themselves are making the same observation.

Do the facts above not matter?

 

[Macca]

Educated people are not the enemy and the attitude they are is dangerous.

Look, the single strongest correlating factor in voting for Trump is lack of a college degree. Of course other people voted for him but you have to look at the main factors.

So these people should be the next Democrat target group

 

[Saddlebrains]

They also felt that way about George W Bush



Twice

Point I'm trying to make is, the tide on here, and the UK seems to be Trump is the worst thing that could happen


So why has America voted him back in? And it's not even close, he's pissed it

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

It sure does when Trump is responsible for women’s deaths by restricting their right to choose. I do not understand how any woman could vote for him

He’s not responsible though is he?

He’s come against a national abortion ban and the overturning of Roe v Wade put the power to legislate on abortion back in the states hands (personally, I’m pro-choice). Hypothetically, each state could ban/legalise it entirely. This also didn’t even happen in Trump’s presidency.

I have to check this, so correct me if I’m wrong, but a lot of the states have restricted abortion more in line with European standards. With only a few exceptions.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

 

[Macca]

Do the facts above not matter?

Perception beats facts in Politics every time.

As an aside I don't think you are going to find the answer to why 70 odd million voted for a lunatic on Skybluestalk

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Well the economy was the biggest issue and most rural Americans see the Democrats as elitest. Harris coming in late didnt help and she is too nice and bland. Trump played the 'outsider' man of the people tough economics guy. Not even close by the looks of it sadly. Putin and Netanyahu are have a party today.

 

[djr8369]

So these people should be the next Democrat target group

Yes but I don’t think you can solve any of their woes. Damage was done decades ago. You can restrict immigration but realistically that’s probably going to harm the economy overall.

My thinking is most people want a job and a stable life for their families. Unemployment is close to record lows and stock markets are at an all time high. Things aren’t likely to get any better. The reasons people are disenfranchised are vague and difficult to tackle.

 

[djr8369]

Perception beats facts in Politics every time.

So true and not just in politics.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Point I'm trying to make is, the tide on here, and the UK seems to be Trump is the worst thing that could happen


So why has America voted him back in? And it's not even close, he's pissed it

I sure don’t know why they have

 

[Evo1883]

Hilarious

 

[Ashdown]

The US lauds their incredible democracy but why then can’t millions of people actually cast a vote

 

[Evo1883]

Educated people are not the enemy and the attitude they are is dangerous.

Look, the single strongest correlating factor in voting for Trump is lack of a college degree. Of course other people voted for him but you have to look at the main factors.

I'm just going out on a limb here , call me crazy , a betting man almost ..

University educated?


"Educated people are not the enemy that's dangerous , look you just have to look at the facts it's the uneducated fault "

I'm out

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The US lauds their incredible democracy but why then can’t millions of people actually cast a vote

Funny how Trump isn’t complaining of rigging the election when he wins