China too. Them abstaining rather than vote with Russia in the week is a big statement on it’s own. Then there’s the assumption that China actually likes Russia. There’s a lot of history between them and it’s not all amicable by any stretch. Then there’s the fact that China’s economy is it’s most important thing to it’s ruling class and actually Russia is not a big player in it, the reality is that Russia’s economy on the world stage ain’t that impressive. Is it really worth China’s energy to back a country with an economy about the same size of Spain and isolate itself from the rest of the world and market in the process. People keep saying Taiwan. I can’t help but think that China has been in a position for decades where financially and logistically it’s more than capable of invading and taking Taiwan. I suspect it’s growing economy and wealth trump ideology.
I was referring to Evo, better luck next time
Agree with all this, except I am not sure Putin will go into another country quickly.I don't get all this what if is was Africa, what if it was China etc.
I think what the Chinese are doing to the Uighars is absolutely disgusting and would love to see us do something, but I think the only thing we could do is to boycott trade with them and hope sanctions are agreed upon by an official body.
Russia have actually invaded another country. It's something completely different isn't it and we can only deal with the here and now and I think it was Tizsa, he is quite right, it does affect your thinking when it's closer to home and not some far away place.
I did know of Charles Taylor.
This whole Ukrainian thing is just f*cked up though and we are sitting here and watching the whole thing unfold.
I really wish we could do something. I think Putin knows we won't and I am worried as to which country will be next. He has a desire to take back all the countries that gained their independence back in the 1990's.
I find the whole situation, disgusting, upsetting and quite bemusing too.
And don't ask me what I would do, because I honestly don't know, but I feel we should be doing something.More than what we are.
Yeah, it’s a ridiculous notion.
I think this is right. He would want it as a buffer state like Belarus and like places like Romania and Poland were in the past.
Didn't say you were, just pointing out I was referring to Evo who has said Ukraine should surrender.
Any way, peace out
But they had democratic elections in 2014 and 2018 where the winners wanted to maintain good relations with Russia whilst developing relations with EU - which at the time was not a military force. It only reignited interest in joining NATO following the Russian invasion in 2014.
Many of who are fighting the Russians including ethnic Russian opposition politicians. One was on C4 news the other day, AK in reach. Ethnicity had no bearings on his beliefs, he believes in Ukraine and believes he’s Ukrainian and stands shoulder to shoulder with his president.
Assumptions made they are close seem to be based on political history ( which no longer apply). It's more an informal collaboration to stymie the Americans. Both are about self- interest and not getting involved in each others business. China's interests are far more global than Russia's.
Don't think anyone thinks the "west" is getting boots on the ground. Been stated too many times.
Please don't put me on ignore for having a differing opinion about what might happen @Brighton Sky Blue
