clint van damme
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There's nothing to suggest he was involved. And nothing to suggest he wasn't. Let's see.
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There's nothing to suggest he was involved. And nothing to suggest he wasn't. Let's see.
Ian1779
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Don’t think so. He did quit as part of the coup of 2016 but I think he’s generally been a little classier than others.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Imagine finding out that Adi Viveash was gutted we were top of the league and was actively working against us getting promoted so Robins lost his job.
Astute
Well-Known Member
The link somehow ignored by everyone that NW put up
Sir Keir Starmer did more on anti-Semitism in 'four days' than Jeremy Corbyn, claim Jewish leaders
Starmer not doing anything?
Coronavirus: New Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer demands 'urgent talks' on parliament's return
And it is supposed to be me who is anti Labour
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
The link somehow ignored by everyone that NW put up
Sir Keir Starmer did more on anti-Semitism in 'four days' than Jeremy Corbyn, claim Jewish leaders
Starmer not doing anything?
Coronavirus: New Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer demands 'urgent talks' on parliament's return
And it is supposed to be me who is anti Labour
Demanding parliament returns during a crisis- hardly radical.
He should have gone in hard and Hancock and Patel. Shoe on the other foot they would.
Astute
Well-Known Member
But you keep having a go at him when nothing suggests he has done anything wrong. And then you have a go at him for not doing anything in the last 4 days when he has.
As I keep saying we should give him a chance. If he fails then have a go.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Stop whaling on about it.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Getting smoke blown up his arse by certain elements within the Jewish community who would do the same to anyone that wasn't Corbyn doesn't impress me.
And I'm not saying the report reveals any dirt on him (Ian is fairly sure it doesnt).
I am giving him a chance, but I'm saying what I think he needs to do, certainly to win me around.
You can't say you were right all along about Corbyn being ineffectual and then be happy with Starmers powder puff start..
Astute
Well-Known Member
You certainly do have a problem with him.
Go in hard when they reconvene. Don't give away points so answers can be prepared.
Is your problem with him that he didn't see Corbyn as the person to lead Labour? As I expect you remember I have wanted Starmer in for a few years. Hopefully he will be another John Smith and make us electable again.
Who would you have preferred to Starmer to lead Labour?
Astute
Well-Known Member
Powder puff start?
Wasting my time here as usual. What about the links I put up?
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
There was no one but Starmer which is a sad indictment not just on Labour but British politics in general.
As I said in another post, Corbyn tried the civil discourse route, it flopped.
Time for gloves off. He'll win doubters round more with that approach.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
The links have nothing to do with calling the Tories to task.
He should have gone in hard on Hancock - how dare he question our NHS heroes etc. Go for the jugular. Shoe on other foot they would.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
no it isn’t
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Rubbish again
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
I hope not. I'm sat drinking the proceeds as we speak.
Ring Of Steel
Well-Known Member
lol, have you or have you not claimed, as you explicitly stated above you had?
You haven’t, have you, you’re lying aren’t you
Ian1779
Well-Known Member
Here’s his chance to create a massive amount of belief and goodwill with those thousands of people that go out and canvass, support and do the dirty work on the ground
Read the report and wreak havoc on those that tried to stop us winning in 2017. He’ll unite the party more than ever that way.
rondog1973
Well-Known Member
I will until I'm blue in the face
Nick
Administrator
Likes.
Who is going to rock up at somebodies house for their leftovers from Sunday dinner?
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
I would
Astute
Well-Known Member
But after just 4 days you make out he has failed.
All I keep saying is give him a chance. But you keep coming out with things he might have done wrong.
Astute
Well-Known Member
Why tell me? I have already said the same thing a few times.
Tell CVD. He is the one who seems to have no faith in Starmer.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Let's see how it plays out.
I really hope he makes a good go of it and offers a realistic alternative to the Tories and not some Tory lite nonsense.
The country needs it.
Astute
Well-Known Member
I have a tin of Guinness left over. I opened it then remembered that I had to go to work
Tommo1993
Well-Known Member
My mrs told me about this post, and I agree with Nick. They’re clearly after a few likes. As if you’d “accidentally” cook for that amount of people when you know it’s not needed.
On the same(ish) sort of note, I’ve never heard so many texts into radios saying ‘I’m a nurse...’, most of them probably are but I bet there’s a lot of lies and sad people want to be praised for absolutely no reason.
Astute
Well-Known Member
That is all I am asking for. He won't be able to shit miracles.
And as you have just said he was the only decent prospect out of the whole lot of them. And what I have been hammered for when saying so. We are in a sad state at the moment.
My biggest worry is who does he replace those who are incapable with?
It is going to be a long hard job. But he has a few years to do it in. And the major bonus is the Tories have Boris. A decent leader will pull Boris to bits.
Astute
Well-Known Member
My wife has always cooked too much. That is why I got fat. Now I don't live with her I am a slimline 16 1/2 st. Dropped nearly 3st. Even the dogs love their vegetables. Had to put a stop to them getting all the leftovers.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
I have a tin of Guinness left over. I opened it then remembered that I had to go to work
Oh dear!
Skybluefaz
Well-Known Member
They all seem to think it's 'fab' and 'so lovely'. I'm the miserable bastard for pointing out that it might be better to just not share dinners around different households
Astute
Well-Known Member
And it is my birthday in 5 hours. And another 12 hour shift to do tomorrow night as well. At least it keeps me out of the pub...........
Skybluefaz
Well-Known Member
Maybe it is just a competition to see who can be the loveliest. I should have just let them crack on.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
Well-Known Member
Well let us know when you actually receive the money back off the government. A month ago people were confident there'd be no problem with Covid19.
As with anything in politics, you believe it when it happens, not when they say it will happen.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
Well-Known Member
People have been furloughed. Getting the money from the scheme is a totally different matter. That can't be known until it actually happens.
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
To be honest I think this serves more as further evidence that certain groups weren't actually concerned with anti-semitism rather than showing Starmer leaping into action.
Lets give him the benefit of the doubt and say he knew nothing of the report, or the actions detailed in it, until he saw it on the news today. Think his response to it will be key to determining if he can unite the party.
Its one thing to say it but you only have to take a brief look at social media to see there are many who don't believe it and see him as Blair 2.0. He had a chance to make a statement of unity with his cabinet but went the other way instead, Reeves in particular a strange appointment in that regard even discarding the anti-semitism issue.
He's got a lame duck government at the moment making a complete mess of a crisis and should also have a new leader bounce. So while its fair to say give him a chance he can't drift along for too long.
David O'Day
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Grenners gets his government money paid directly into his bank like every other universal credit claimant
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