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[Brighton Sky Blue]

My daughter earns £25 grand a year lives in a rented house drives a new car and has saved enough for a deposit on a house - get your chip off your shoulder

Oh and a friend of my younger daughter has just bought a house

We've never had it so good wait what we're the first generation to be worse off than the one before.

 

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[Astute]

So not hard left then... thanks for agreeing.

Agree with what?

You comparing us with other countries but won't state who they are?

Silly season is back.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Agree with what?

You comparing us with other countries but won't state who they are?

Silly season is back.

To be fair Astute we hear a lot about the centre but I don't see how the Tories have ever pitched policies that meet that description. Until Boris pledged to re-spend what his party took away for a decade that is

 

[Grendel]

We've never had it so good wait what we're the first generation to be worse off than the one before.

So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

We got one last year mostly thank to my missus who being Scottish wasn't charged through the nose for her education-or at all actually. Can you explain to me how the Conservatives are the party I should support, as a public sector worker?

 

[Astute]

We've never had it so good wait what we're the first generation to be worse off than the one before.

Don't shout too loud. It all changed through the years of Labour leadership.

 

[Sick Boy]

Great news mate, hopefully it continues next week

Let’s hope so!
The daily briefings are now no more and the updates will only happen a couple of times a week now, I guess they’ll realise daily figures still though.
The capo of the Civil Protection is really excellent, as are the others who are involved with them.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

My daughter earns £25 grand a year lives in a rented house drives a new car and has saved enough for a deposit on a house - get your chip off your shoulder

Oh and a friend of my younger daughter has just bought a house

Is this the £500k house you talked of aspiring of? I somehow doubt it.

When you moving into the box anyway? I'm offering you the chance to become incredibly wealthy........

 

[Grendel]

We got one last year mostly thank to my missus who being Scottish wasn't charged through the nose for her education-or at all actually. Can you explain to me how the Conservatives are the party I should support, as a public sector worker?

Exactly my point people vote always for their own self interest - altruism is not a main consideration

 

[Grendel]

Is this the £500k house you talked of aspiring of? I somehow doubt it.

When you moving into the box anyway? I'm offering you the chance to become incredibly wealthy........

I’m taking about my daughter you are really losing the plot

 

[wingy]

Don't shout too loud. It all changed through the years of Labour leadership.

It did indeed .

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Don't shout too loud. It all changed through the years of Labour leadership.

Millennials have been let down by neoliberals and conservatives alike. The 2017 manifesto was the sweet spot

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

So how will labour make her life better? She wants a house.

Doesn't she want good health, clean air or decent services and infrastructure?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Exactly my point people vote always for their own self interest - altruism is not a main consideration

I would be voting for them regardless brah

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I’m taking about my daughter you are really losing the plot

I was talking about your daughter - asking was this house you daughter's buying the £500k house you talked of young people aspiring too? And why are you turning down the chance to be rich? All you've got to do is go without poxy over-rated air, food and water but what are they compared to money?

 

[Grendel]

Doesn't she want good health, clean air or decent services and infrastructure?

Why would that be better under Labour? Clean air? What services?

 

[Astute]

It did indeed .

I know very well. Bought a house for 26k in 1997. Sold it for 33.5k in 2002. Bought a house for 61k. Sold it in 2009 for 128k. Bought for 150k and sold 18 months later for 175k.

And during this time our pensions got decimated.

But the normal thing we hear is the last generation had it so good. And this is from the most left wing of Labour.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why would that be better under Labour? Clean air? What services?

Police for one

 

[Grendel]

I would be voting for them regardless brah

you wouldn’t

 

[Ian1779]

Just listen how absurd you sound

Says the master of absurdity and deflection.

 

[Ian1779]

I know very well. Bought a house for 26k in 1997. Sold it for 33.5k in 2002. Bought a house for 61k. Sold it in 2009 for 128k. Bought for 150k and sold 18 months later for 175k.

And during this time our pensions got decimated.

But the normal thing we hear is the last generation had it so good. And this is from the most left wing of Labour.

Really? Which prominent lefties are saying that?

 

[Grendel]

I was talking about your daughter - asking was this house you daughter's buying the £500k house you talked of young people aspiring too? And why are you turning down the chance to be rich? All you've got to do is go without poxy over-rated air, food and water but what are they compared to money?

I talked about the Coventrian living in a £500k house - are you drunk?

 

[Grendel]

Says the master of absurdity and deflection.

Keep losing elections Ian

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

you wouldn’t

I believe that society as a whole benefits from social democracy and the Tories don't stand for that

 

[Astute]

Millennials have been let down by neoliberals and conservatives alike. The 2017 manifesto was the sweet spot

But you love to blame the Tories for everything. When I say the last Labour government were Tories in disguise the excuses come out.

I would prefer to still have 30k houses for families to live in. I would prefer final salary pensions like we used to have. Not going to make excuses for what happened. But many don't like the truth.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

But you love to blame the Tories for everything. When I say the last Labour government were Tories in disguise the excuses come out.

I would prefer to still have 30k houses for families to live in. I would prefer final salary pensions like we used to have. Not going to make excuses for what happened. But many don't like the truth.

The Tories have been in for a decade, most of what is bad now is a reflection of their governance is it not? I have said many times that neoliberals have much to answer for-but they have not been in office since 2010

 

[Astute]

Really? Which prominent lefties are saying that?

Some admit they are. Others are so obvious that they are.

They praised Corbyn when the rest of the world could see what was going to happen. Now the same people rip into Starmer when he has only just taken over.

 

[Astute]

The Tories have been in for a decade, most of what is bad now is a reflection of their governance is it not? I have said many times that neoliberals have much to answer for-but they have not been in office since 2010

The biggest changes that you keep mentioning were under the Labour years. Yet you make out it was the Tories.

And the get out clause has always been the Tories have been in for ... amount of years.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The biggest changes that you keep mentioning were under the Labour years. Yet you make out it was the Tories.

And the get out clause has always been the Tories have been in for ... amount of years.

In the last 40 years Labour have been in for just 13 of them dude and I keep saying neoliberalism hasn't helped my generation much either

Though to be fair they haven't made my job harder every year unlike the blue guys

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I talked about the Coventrian living in a £500k house - are you drunk?

Speaking of him how should Labour get his support when he wants to drown immigrants?

 

[Astute]

In the last 40 years Labour have been in for just 13 of them dude and I keep saying neoliberalism hasn't helped my generation much either

Though to be fair they haven't made my job harder every year unlike the blue guys

I am not a Tory and never will be.

And you have said it yourself here. In the last 40 years or so there has not been a left wing Labour government. Yet many push for a left wing Labour party.

That is why I say make the choice. Left wing Labour party or go closer to centre and have a chance of winning a GE.

This isn't me pushing for the centre. It is me being realistic on what is needed if we are to have a Labour government.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I am not a Tory and never will be.

And you have said it yourself here. In the last 40 years or so there has not been a left wing Labour government. Yet many push for a left wing Labour party.

That is why I say make the choice. Left wing Labour party or go closer to centre and have a chance of winning a GE.

This isn't me pushing for the centre. It is me being realistic on what is needed if we are to have a Labour government.

The 2017 manifesto was a strong one and couldn't really have been argued as some Marxist fantasy. Can you explain to me what makes the Tories centrist? Really, because I genuinely want to know why the perception exists

 

[Ring Of Steel]

We've never had it so good wait what we're the first generation to be worse off than the one before.

Also the first to have a shorter life expectancy than the last

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Millennials have been let down by neoliberals and conservatives alike. The 2017 manifesto was the sweet spot

I also don’t see how it can even be up for debate that in many areas the younger generations have been totally fucked over by the older generations.

 

[Johhny Blue]

But who's better, Shipley or Bayliss?