Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (14 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Can you not see the issue? It was only lunchtime today we had this:

Literally within a couple of hours we had this:

We've had weeks of being told how this app was vital. Any criticism of us going it alone and using a different app to the rest of the world was brushed aside with a vague 'stop being negative'. Now it turns out our state of the art system will be to do it all by hand. It's embarrassing.

I was just pointing out to the Geoffrey that he had actually already replied to a post saying this

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[SkyBlueDom26]

177k tests done and still only 2.4k new cases! The end is in sight.... also deaths down substantially from last Wednesday

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

177k tests done and still only 2.4k new cases! The end is in sight.... also deaths down substantially from last Wednesday

Still 360 and far too high-not being negative just a realist

 

[chiefdave]

177k tests done

Is that just for one day? The figures weren't available yesterday due to a 'technical issue with the data collection systems'.

Don't mean to be cynical but the highest figure so far this month is 78,537 people tested so that's a hell of a jump. Also we've more than doubled the number of tests but no increases in the number of positive results. Something seems off.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Still 360 and far too high-not being negative just a realist

Yes it’s a high number but if we follow the trends in 2 weeks it Hopefully be right down, I rekon by June we might be having single digits or even no deaths

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes it’s a high number but if we follow the trends in 2 weeks it Hopefully be right down, I rekon by June we might be having single digits or even no deaths

Hope isn't enough to be committed to reopening schools-I want us to at least be regularly below 100 before talking about that. I also fail to understand why we are planning to introduce 2 week quarantines when it's apparently safe to start opening things up or why we didn't quarantine months ago.

 

[clint van damme]

You are all a bnuch of cnuts

Don't hold back

 

[clint van damme]

Just read this thread on Starmers use of PMQs which makes some good points:

I noticed this the other week when either Raab or Hancock were deputising for the part time PM and plucked some figure on testing out of the air he said good lu k in reaching it and left it at that.
You know if it's not met he'll be onto them about it rather than arguing the toss there and then about whether it was reachable which made sense

I don't think he's been as good as his fanboys and girls make out and definitely not as bad as his haters portray him.

 

[hill83]

Don't hold back

Not you. You’re all right. One of the good ones.

 

[Nick]

You are all a bnuch of cnuts

Better than being a lefty righty labour loving tory

 

[clint van damme]

Not you. You’re all right. One of the good ones.

As you said earlier,if you have to explain it!

 

[David O'Day]

177k tests done and still only 2.4k new cases! The end is in sight.... also deaths down substantially from last Wednesday

There were not 177k tests done.

It includes tests posted again

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[skybluetony176]

I like it when someone uses Wiki and tries to sound clever especially when quoting an alternate spelling from wiki to sound amazingly intelligent - still spelling my name wrong and not understanding that all he’s doing is an anagram competition to describe himself

He was Danish, Cnut is the correct spelling.

 

[chiefdave]

Just read this thread on Starmers use of PMQs which makes some good points:

Get the point he's making but pushing the PM, or whoever is standing in for him, to commit to specifics is of no use if nothing happens when they fail. We all know they very clearly said they'd be testing 100K people a day, every day, by the start of May. That still isn't happening and is hardly mentioned.

 

[skybluetony176]

In Brexit news, just announced that indeed there will now be checks on goods coming to GB from NI, starting January

That can’t be true. Honest Boris said no British PM would or should accept that deal at a DUP conference.

 

[chiefdave]

There were not 177k tests done.

It includes tests posted again

Department of Health have now released their figures and its 60,744 people tested.

Also includes a note saying "There have been several revisions to today’s data across all four testing pillars" whatever that's supposed to mean.

 

[skybluetony176]

Horrific mate, I watched this video earlier and it has made me feel physically sick to think how we treat good people who are putting themselves in the line of fire

That Boris disappeared as soon as the headline became wrapping for chips.

 

[skybluetony176]

Well he’s said it will be by the 1st so let’s wait and see

If it’s not will you agree that Boris is a useless c**t with a cabinet made up of Diane Abbott rejects?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

That can’t be true. Honest Boris so no British PM would or should accept that deal at a DUP conference.

He is McDonald's wet dream, assuming Sinn Feiners have them

 

[hill83]

Commons return will ‘euthanise’ MPs, Jacob Rees-Mogg is warned

Get the fucking schools in though yeah?*

*early evidence, kids no symptoms, don’t pass it on etc etc. Don’t believe them.

Never thought I’d indirectly agree with Rees Mogg

 

[Grendel]

Still 360 and far too high-not being negative just a realist

Alice Cooper lives

 

[David O'Day]

Department of Health have now released their figures and its 60,744 people tested.

Also includes a note saying "There have been several revisions to today’s data across all four testing pillars" whatever that's supposed to mean.

Wow that is some extensive figure padding

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[David O'Day]

He was Danish, Cnut is the correct spelling.

Yeah that was his name. It's not an alternative spelling. If anything Grenners is using the alternative spelling.

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[skybluetony176]

Anyone see the footage of people staying alert on Southend beach today? #commonsense

 

[skybluetony176]

Yeah that was his name. It's not an alternative spelling. If anything Grenners is using the alternative spelling.

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The alternatives are Cnud or Knud. Grendull has used the dumbed down for uneducated English speakers version.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Anyone see the footage of people staying alert on Southend beach today? #commonsense

Quite a lot of school age children being taken around and about, must have Teams open on their phones

 

[shmmeee]

Get the point he's making but pushing the PM, or whoever is standing in for him, to commit to specifics is of no use if nothing happens when they fail. We all know they very clearly said they'd be testing 100K people a day, every day, by the start of May. That still isn't happening and is hardly mentioned.

Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.

 

[David O'Day]

Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.

This

It's a long game

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.

It's like Maxwell-Fyfe v Goring in '45

 

[clint van damme]

Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.

Corbyn ranting? Corbyns style was anything but ranting, particularly at the start. He got criticised for it.

 

[wingy]

Get the point he's making but pushing the PM, or whoever is standing in for him, to commit to specifics is of no use if nothing happens when they fail. We all know they very clearly said they'd be testing 100K people a day, every day, by the start of May. That still isn't happening and is hardly mentioned.

I don't think we will be waiting years for this inquiry.
Interim is weeks away I'd think .
How damning that becomes could cause a huge shift .

 

[shmmeee]

Corbyn ranting? Corbyns style was anything but ranting, particularly at the start. He got criticised for it.

Maybe ranting is a poor word, but the whole “DAE evil Tories?” stuff in general. It’s so outside the world view of Tory voters and floating voters that it doesn’t cut through like letting them hang themselves with their own targets.

I loved Corbyn at the start, during the leadership campaign. He was genuinely inspiring at times. But I’m a massive leftie and so was everyone else in the room. We all wanted our biases confirmed.

 

[shmmeee]

It's like Maxwell-Fyfe v Goring in '45

Had to Google that one.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Had to Google that one.

Note: Not a comparison of Johnson to Goring, but dismantling through competent rather than spectacular interrogation

 

[stupot07]

177k tests done and still only 2.4k new cases! The end is in sight.... also deaths down substantially from last Wednesday

177k tests done on just 60k people, spinning the numbers somewhat.

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