That was their call not mine, im happy with jabbed and unjabbed people, tbf i think its mostly because i moved country they just cant be fucked with me anymore.
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Nick
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Yeah moving to a different country probably has more to do with it than vaccine status.
Probably another week or so before we know if patients and more importantly Covid inpatients are increasing rapidly due to Omicron. Agree about anecdotal evidence, hearing the same but then again all are vaccinated
baldy
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So a winter cold then?
Philosoraptor
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Interesting wording from Sturgeon today.
Nothing - including lockdown - is inevitable, says Sturgeon
I would say the latest thinking is almost currently nailed on then to have one.
Nothing - including lockdown - is inevitable, says Sturgeon
I would say the latest thinking is almost currently nailed on then to have one.
Brighton Sky Blue
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She’ll just see what Boris does then copy it with a few tweaks to seem ‘better’
Wyken Sky Blue
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The fact hospital admissions and deaths are still low either proves the booster programme is going well or Omicron isn't as severe as the government/media are making out
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Saddlebrains
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South Africa and Denmark have been saying for a while it's mild and there are minimal admissions compared to previous waves.
Seems only this country is wetting itself so far
Philosoraptor
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Yep, I would agree with that.
At the moment the devolved administrations seem to be leading the way with Westminster dragging their feet.
i think they can do only so much in the framework Westminster sets for them.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Mark Drakeford was complaining that when he wants to implement things of his own accord Westminster doesn’t automatically grant the funding.
No shit
fernandopartridge
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This is just a politician's way of saying "Lockdown isn't inevitable unless you make me do it by you leaving your house"
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Philosoraptor
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Good post.
chiefdave
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Is this really the case? Not really looked into it but just from things I've seen in the news France are restricting who can come in and in Ontario events now have a 50% capacity limit.
Saddlebrains
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Numerous people on the ground in South Africa who have experienced this wave for weeks now have said hospitalisations etc are low.
The data coming out of there also supports this.
Yes before anyone starts crying, there is a different demographic in SA, younger population, less densely populated.
But they're also nowhere near our percentage of people jabbed and have a high level of H.I.V which as we all know compromises immune systems.
Of course, we don't fully know yet but I am erring on the side of this not being anywhere near a bad as the government is trying to convince us it will be.
fernandopartridge
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They have more current restrictions in SA than we do here, I don't know why you're saying the country is wetting its knickers.
skybluetony176
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Modern treatments for HIV are essentially a cure. They even stop you passing it on. So not sure you’re right about it suppressing the immune system anymore.
baldy
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It really is wetting its collective knickers though - people cancelling xmas events etc without any actual proof that it's the 'deadly' disease that the mainstream media are claiming it to be - where's the swathes of people that are dying from it? Even the one person that died died WITH it & not FROM it
baldy
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DR. ANGELIQUE COETZEE: Britain is overreacting to Omicron
DR. ANGELIQUE COETZEE: With predictions of one million cases by the end of the month, I gather there is talk of Christmas being cancelled and a possible New Year lockdown.
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It's been very much the other way round throughout the pandemic. Johnson has followed what she and Wales have done and generally too late.
Just a coincidence i guess
Do you have any examples of the media claiming it to be 'deadly'?
The only people wetting their knickers are the ones who read/hear something, twist it or misinterpret it and then get angry at what they've just misinterpreted!
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David O'Day
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DR. ANGELIQUE COETZEE: Britain is overreacting to Omicron
DR. ANGELIQUE COETZEE: With predictions of one million cases by the end of the month, I gather there is talk of Christmas being cancelled and a possible New Year lockdown.www.dailymail.co.uk
She's a GP not a Virologist. She can talk about a handful of patients.
I'll listen to the actual experts first mate.
Denmark today closed all concert halls, museums, theatres, cinemas and galleries, and banned all alcohol sales after 10pm.
Johnnythespider
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Sky Blue Pete
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Saddlebrains
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Fuck me its like 2020 again.
Try and inject some positivity and good news and you're rounded on.
Im just off to put on my grim reaper outfit and pick up my scythe, then il come back and join you all to wallow in how many thousands of deaths we can expect
Try and inject some positivity and good news and you're rounded on.
Im just off to put on my grim reaper outfit and pick up my scythe, then il come back and join you all to wallow in how many thousands of deaths we can expect
Just a quick cautionary tale for those seeing higher risk relatives this xmas. I’m triple jabbed and already had covid (July) but took a pcr after getting pinged earlier in the week (mate who Id seen tested positive). I’ve could’ve just done daily LFs but had been to a hospital consultancy appt in morning (I’d taken an LF before going and was clear) so decided to take pcr so I could let them know if I was pcr positive
Two days later, I get my positive pcr result....unfuckinbelievable...but I’m still showing as negative on LF. The good news is if I didn’t catch it from my mate I’ve been pretty much asymptomatic...which is hopefully the same for many who get Omicron and are vaccinated/boosted. However those who want to be extra cautious and are going to be around high risk relatives might want to get a PCR mid next week…although be prepared to have Xmas plans fucked up as I think a lot might have it but don’t even know !
Finally, if rumours are true about Sage pushing for a potential immediate ‘two week’ lockdown ie no mixing of households and only outdoor hospitality, they can do one unless they’ve got real life data to back it up. I never thought I’d say this but if it’s unvaccinated getting seriously ill and ending up in hospital, not those who are vaccinated/boosted, lock them down, not people who have done everything asked of them.
Two days later, I get my positive pcr result....unfuckinbelievable...but I’m still showing as negative on LF. The good news is if I didn’t catch it from my mate I’ve been pretty much asymptomatic...which is hopefully the same for many who get Omicron and are vaccinated/boosted. However those who want to be extra cautious and are going to be around high risk relatives might want to get a PCR mid next week…although be prepared to have Xmas plans fucked up as I think a lot might have it but don’t even know !
Finally, if rumours are true about Sage pushing for a potential immediate ‘two week’ lockdown ie no mixing of households and only outdoor hospitality, they can do one unless they’ve got real life data to back it up. I never thought I’d say this but if it’s unvaccinated getting seriously ill and ending up in hospital, not those who are vaccinated/boosted, lock them down, not people who have done everything asked of them.
robbiekeane
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To be fair FP, I’m fuming because I’ve come back home to see everyone and the media’s going fucking mad again about covid and everyone’s cancelled Christmas parties and the footballs been cancelled. Everyone’s being told to only see people if they really need to or want to and the Welsh government have announced restrictions again from the 27th.
People are reacting to the way it’s being reported and our leadership. All of this with how many deaths from omnicron? Is it still just the 1? Genuine question not being a prick.
And as nick shared previously positive cases are still about 5% of tests taken. Everyone is (rightly) testing like mad.
robbiekeane
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If you asked me 6/12 months ago I’d said that’s a really bad stance to take and now I’m exactly the fucking same.
Unfortunately I don’t know if we will find out the data to support that view as there’s a real lack of transparency. All we want to know is if you have been double jabbed, had a booster jab or had Covid recently and healthy, are you safe ?!
It’s a simple question and needs answering. Instead we get forecasts of 5000 deaths a day rammed down our throats. It’s unacceptable
I think it will be a mess everywhere in terms of case numbers sick boy. If Omicron is as transmissible as it appears then only stricter measures will have an effect. Sorry if I keep repeating myself but it’s hospitalisations/Covid inpatients that’s got to be the focus now
Sick Boy
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Yeah I agree with you, I’ve got my booster on 30th and don’t want to take the risk of ending up not being able to get back over.