Ring Of Steel
Well-Known Member
achieved what? This is the guy who wants to shoot migrant boats, has a massive chip on his shoulder about everything and is permanently obnoxious- what has he ‘achieved’ exactly?
He was talking about as a 16 year old he had no money and qualifications and achieved that and I asked is that something a vote for labour encourages.
you seem a bit slow?
Probably don’t patronise them that they should know better and you know what’s good for them
Most on here don't seem to agree.
You have to appeal to most in some way. The Tories do it by lowering tax. That is why our services get shafted.
Hopefully when this is all over the majority will be happy to pay more tax. Frontline staff deserve much more. And this isn't just pay. The problem has always been people don't vote for tax increases. The floating voters vote for what is best for them. But maybe most will realise what is more important.
And no more free internet for all. The money raised needs to go where it is needed. To care for people that need it.
achieved what? This is the guy who wants to shoot migrant boats, has a massive chip on his shoulder about everything and is permanently obnoxious- what has he ‘achieved’ exactly?
We? Farms are private companies. Stands to reason that a private company flew them in. Not sure at all what point you’re trying to make there when the “we” is clearly the U.K.We? Yet again it was a private company that chartered the flight.
And we will be in recession when we open up again. Just like most of the world.
We don't need. But the company bosses who make the money will make even more money by bringing in cheap labour. You are for this until it is having a go at those making the money. Then it is bad.
He was talking about as a 16 year old he had no money and qualifications and achieved that and I asked is that something a vote for labour encourages.
you seem a bit slow?
So you weren't in any way making a general point about young people aspiring to own large property..........
In the grand scheme of things he isn't that well paid. Family members of mine earn 4 to.5 as much.Has a well paid job at a poorly performing car manufacturer, then again so did the guy you’re quoting
The most patronising thing I’ve heard from any mp in the last few years is Rees-Mogg going on about Brexit putting shoes on feet as if we should be grateful for the basic necessity of shoes, not that it was ever an issue pre Brexit.Because you definitely don't see the likes of Johnson, JRM, Cameron etc. thinking they're superior to 'ordinary' folk and know what's best for them? But they patronise them in a plummy accent so that's fine.
Have you ever considered thats how people think?
In the grand scheme of things he isn't that well paid. Family members of mine earn 4 to.5 as much.
500k houses in covel aren't what they used to be. We sold our 1 bedroom flat in london for 300k.
He's doing alright if he is telling the truth. JLR aren't likely to be employing as many people in future
None of this has anything to do with the fact he's a prize bellend, a racist who has wanted to driw immigrants and most likely ugly as fuck.
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Being angry over trivial things?achieved what? This is the guy who wants to shoot migrant boats, has a massive chip on his shoulder about everything and is permanently obnoxious- what has he ‘achieved’ exactly?
The most patronising thing I’ve heard from any mp in the last few years is Rees-Mogg going on about Brexit putting shoes on feet as if we should be grateful for the basic necessity of shoes, not that it was ever an issue pre Brexit.
You can buy a house not too far from me for less than 40k. But people still rent. Why is this?
How about what would happen if these landlords didn't buy properties to rent out. Where would those who can't buy live?
Has a well paid job at a poorly performing car manufacturer, then again so did the guy you’re quoting
If the landlords didn't buy them as a business investment (thus giving them greater access to finance) pushing the prices up, properties would be more affordable and those that can't buy would be able to.
Yes, some people would choose to rent, possibly due to not having an intention to stay somewhere long and the hassle of going through buying property that you'd be looking to sell very soon anyway is more of an inconvenience. But there are loads of people who would love to buy and can't.
I blame the management. Lions and the odd racist led by donkeys.Has a well paid job at a poorly performing car manufacturer, then again so did the guy you’re quoting
So you weren't in any way making a general point about young people aspiring to own large property..........
Bitterness and resentment - more excellent qualities
The most patronising thing I’ve heard from any mp in the last few years is Rees-Mogg going on about Brexit putting shoes on feet as if we should be grateful for the basic necessity of shoes, not that it was ever an issue pre Brexit.
No I was quoting him as an example of someone you’d expect to be a labour voter and what would a vote for labour do to enhance his quality of life and oddly no one has yet answered
No I was quoting him as an example of someone you’d expect to be a labour voter and what would a vote for labour do to enhance his quality of life and oddly no one has yet answered
Did you see the thing from when he was first campaigning to become an MP and people were laughing at him because he'd taken his nanny with him. His response being "I don't know why they're laughing - if it'd been my valet they'd have considered it perfectly normal"
really? His nanny?
Because you definitely don't see the likes of Johnson, JRM, Cameron etc. thinking they're superior to 'ordinary' folk and know what's best for them? But they patronise them in a plummy accent so that's fine.
I would perhaps argue (maybe naively) that as someone who clearly has massive chips on both shoulders about foreigners, immigrants, young people and indeed anyone he sees as different to himself, that any attempt to pigeonhole him as ‘typical labour’ is somewhat misguided
Not just his nanny but the family one.
No I was quoting him as an example of someone you’d expect to be a labour voter and what would a vote for labour do to enhance his quality of life and oddly no one has yet answered
that’s brilliant, I never knew that
No you asked what would Labour do to help his aspirations to be monetarily rich? I answered about what they'd do to enhance quality of life with things like healthcare and public services alongside many other things that improve quality of life, but they difficult to put a monetary value so obviously are worthless in your mind, when in reality a lot of them are priceless.
There is zero evidence they would
People generally put policies first that impact their own lives and basic securities - most only see interested in politics bear elections. They have little real interest in policies and generally have little faith politicians will deliver them anyway - again you are trying to bring people up to what you believe are superior behaviours
Most wont and don’t
There is zero evidence they would
People generally put policies first that impact their own lives and basic securities - most only see interested in politics bear elections. They have little real interest in policies and generally have little faith politicians will deliver them anyway - again you are trying to bring people up to what you believe are superior behaviours
Most wont and don’t
It’s fine as they are politicians who want people to vote for them.
The conservatives win elections because they have strategies to win them whereas labour other than Blair who was excellent at it don’t
Labour is obsessed with its members. Members of parties are not the general public
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