skybluetony176
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But you’re a moron. What ever it is you’re convinced of is a figment of your moronic imagination.
But you’re a moron. What ever it is you’re convinced of is a figment of your moronic imagination.I'd just give up. Some on here just hate the Tories that much I'm convinced they dont want the death rate to decline as it gives them more ammo. Utterly bizarre.
Not going to answer as to why you knowing lie every single day?‘Dominic’ looool
A dangerous second peak would be more economically damaging than extending the restrictions.
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Are you seriously asking why citizens of the U.K. are complaining about the U.K. government response over the Swedish, German, or Chinese?
We’re gonna have to find a balanceyeah, and could potentially put the NHS under the sort of pressure everyone was worried about at the start of the outbreak. But I don't think we've left ourselves with any option than to take a risk.
There was even someone from the Daily Mail on the radio earlier who refused to defend the part time PMs handling of the crisis. That just shows how bad it is.
No, I said across the world the UK gets worse press than Sweden on this.
We’re gonna have to find a balance
Obviously 0 but I can’t see how that is possible, I wouldn’t really like to put a number on it.... maybe similar to what spain and Italy are on?What is an acceptable death rate, in your view?
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You're falling into a trap here, the furlough money and support for self employed is the only thing keeping the economy going as there is and still will be limited demand otherwise.we probably will now. We can't keep the country shut and borrowing for furlough money and hand outs to the self employed.
We blew our chance at emulating what other countries have done. Lets hope for a miracle.
Obviously 0 but I can’t see how that is possible, I wouldn’t really like to put a number on it.... maybe similar to what spain and Italy are on?
Seriously question - how do you monitor the worlds press?
Sweden moved to the top of the per capita death rates this week and it was quite widely reported in publications I've looked at.
No, I said across the world the UK gets worse press than Sweden on this.
The Guardian's been quite critical of their satrategy, to name but one so-called lefty rag...Seriously question - how do you monitor the worlds press?
Sweden moved to the top of the per capita death rates this week and it was quite widely reported in publications I've looked at.
That’s why I said 0?Funny how people talk about an acceptable death rate when it’s not them or their loved ones dying.
Funny how people talk about an acceptable death rate when it’s not them or their loved ones dying.
I've read so many articles blasting the UK, mainly because I've got many friends (In Czech Republic, Germany, Russia, Spain, Netherlands, and Turkey to name a few) that have regularly been in touch asking what on earth is going on.
Quite a bit of the media I've seen is actively mocking us and they include articles about tory politicians that aren't even Boris.
Compare that with Sweden, and whilst I have seen critical articles, it is nowhere near on the scale than what we have had.
Probably because Sweden is up front and very clearly about its strategy. The U.K. should be no where near as bad as it is considering that our government are claiming lockdown etc. That’s why the U.K. is getting scrutinised in the world press.No, I said across the world the UK gets worse press than Sweden on this.
The Guardian's been quite critical of their satrategy, to name but one so-called lefty rag...
They aren't top of the continental death charts
I've read so many articles blasting the UK, mainly because I've got many friends (In Czech Republic, Germany, Russia, Spain, Netherlands, and Turkey to name a few) that have regularly been in touch asking what on earth is going on.
Quite a bit of the media I've seen is actively mocking us and they include articles about tory politicians that aren't even Boris.
Compare that with Sweden, and whilst I have seen critical articles, it is nowhere near on the scale than what we have had.
Probably because Sweden is up front and very clearly about its strategy. The U.K. should be no where near as bad as it is considering that our government are claiming lockdown etc. That’s why the U.K. is getting scrutinised in the world press.
Neither were we at one point.
You're falling into a trap here, the furlough money and support for self employed is the only thing keeping the economy going as there is and still will be limited demand otherwise.
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Let's be clear, our politicians deserve everything they are getting much and more.
Whether Sweden's politicians do as well doesn't really concern me to be honest.
But even if they do, that doesn't mean ours should be let of the hook.
When Italy was in crisis at the start it got the lion's share of the coverage. Now it's 3 months on and we are clearly the worst, plus the second biggest economy on the continent. I don't really get your point, our government deserves to be the main focus for its awful handling of the outbreak and even now evidence is emerging that they ignored the SAGE recommendations on school reopening to go ahead with their own thing.
The government can't be trusted to keep its own citizens safe.
So are you saying it is true that we are getting a lot more stick?
I can't work it out. Some say I'm wrong, and some say I'm right for the wrong reasons.
It really does feel like it doesn't go down when you come on this thread and don't tow the narrative.
I agree with your point about the UK inwardly looking, but I'm not talking about that.
See my reply to Clint for a bit more clarity.
What does it matter?
Our government has been poor, our death rate is high.
What comfort would you get from Sweden getting more stick in the world press if it is true that they are being treated less harshly?
I can’t say I’ve noticed but then I haven’t looked. But if we are the government has provided the ammunition. They’ve systematically failed. We had a lockdown that in many respects never was, we had the benefit of hindsight from being 2 weeks behind Italy and Spain only to squander it, we deliberately sent the disease into care homes, we have a PM who ignored his own advice and caught it etc etc etc etc. If the world press are knocking them over it’s only because Boris and co are standing them up. It’s a fuck up and a national disgrace, we have the second highest death toll in the western world when we really never should have if it had been handled correctly. I would be more shocked if the world press wasn’t talking about this embarrassment Boris has overseen.So are you saying it is true that we are getting a lot more stick?
I can't work it out. Some say I'm wrong, and some say I'm right for the wrong reasons.
It really does feel like it doesn't go down when you come on this thread and don't tow the narrative.
I don't think ours should be left off the hook. I think some people are just surprised when I talk about another country because the frothing of tory bashing has to take a brief pause for a second.
I've said numerous times they have dealt with it appallingly.
My issue is that other countries are generally being let off the hook.
I haven't seen it published almost anywhere that Norway has closed its land border with Sweden for the first time in eleventy billion years, but in Turkey everyone knows who Matt Hancock is. It's mental.
As you said in your earlier post, you accept Germany's figures are completely out of line with the rest of the world. Why isn't that being talked about?
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