The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (222 Viewers)
- Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
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Yes, the certainly cocked up there.
'One explanation for the IMF’s hyperbolic warnings about the immediate impact of the Brexit vote is that it thought the expected remain vote would mean they would never have to be justified. Now that it has, the IMF is terrified because it sees the UK referendum as symptomatic of something deeply dysfunctional about the global economy it has helped to shape in the past four decades. Which indeed it is.'
Now they are not going to influence a referendum, so maybe this time their assesment is more realistic. Apropos experts, I see JLR are introducing a three day week for a short time. No doubt nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit. More Brexit bluster, and strategic scaremongering.
Grendel
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No its nothing to do with Brexit but let’s be honest you want it to be and you want industry and the uk to fail so you can pledge loyalty to your Fuhrer
You really are an odious vile creature. On thing is for certain - Britain is a lot better place without a cowardly odious apologist like you.
clint van damme
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I've got to be honest Mart. I work in the JLR supply chain and I fully expect it to collapse next year if we don't get a deal.
But I can't see how they can blame the current situation on Brexit.
The two diesel saloons they bought out in 2015 have been a disaster and there have been several poor strategic decisions.
I am not an apologist. Your company keep on about Brexit and the damage it could bring. Tell them that they are odious vile creatures and that people like me are believing them. If Brexit is so good, they should be shouting it from the rooftops.
Grendel
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You are all over it. You’ve already admitted you would not Brexit to be a success if it resulted in the destruction of the ghastly euro project.
Still keep it up. The more people I show up your rabid froth at the mouth euro bilge the more people admit we need to leave
skybluetony176
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I blame senior management taking their eyes off the ball because they’re spending too much time on Internet forums
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Sick Boy
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Do you really share this forum with poor unsuspecting non-posters?!
skybluetony176
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I can’t decide what’s sadder. The fact that he does it in the first place or the fact that he feels the need to brag about doing it.
Have you shown it Herrn Speth?
Brexit has nothing to do with the Euro and I certainly haven’t said that I want Brexit to fail to „save“ the Euro. I think Brexit will fail. That is totally different to saying I want it to fail.
shmmeee
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Can’t argue with that logic.
SIR ERNIE
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I wondered when they’d wheel out her again to deliver her doom and gloom prophesy. The same one she delivered two years ago which failed to materialise. Who’ll be next? Obama?
Loved the way the snooty old hag lectured the Greeks for not paying their taxes a few years ago, whilst she was taking a fat tax-free salary from the IMF.
The act of leaving the largest trading bloc would be a success for Brexit , but whether the benefits of Brexit exceed the negative aspects will be the measure of success of Brexit itself.
This is what they say:
Bregret
Overall public opinion has drifted slightly against Brexit. We regularly ask the public whether they think that Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave and the answers now show that slightly more people think it was the wrong decision. The gap is still relatively small (on average this year “wrong” has had a three-point lead over “right”), but it is consistent.
SIR ERNIE
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You've said you'd prefer Brexit was a disaster for Britain than the EU fall apart.
Westendlad
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I much prefer dutchman's statement !
Grendel
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What percentage did it actually say had no interest in the subject either way?
Evo1883
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I worked at jaguar Land Rover too and recently got laid off .
Jaguar are playing a blinder with this Brexit guff and the media are lapping it up .
They started building a factory in Slovakia long before the word Brexit was mentioned , ofcourse cheap labour and the fact workers on 100% in the uk on the 3 shift rotation Pull 620 a week after tax and their counterparts in Slovakia will work for 700 euros a month has absolutely nothing to do with Jaguar land rovers decision to lay staff off and project fear into its workforce , instead they have their excuse lined up for them already in Brexit .
Poor quality has hit JLR harder than Brexit and Slovakia will hit it even harder .
Can’t believe how many people lap up Brexit as the cause of JLRs UK problems.
They are doing what Peugeot and Massey Ferguson did before them
Actually I don’t. I think it will cause future problems. I’ll take your word on what’s happened so far.
Not as many as think it was the wrong decision.
Evo1883
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JLR will lay off thousands in the uk over the next 5 years and it would of happened irrespective of Brexit .
well that’s up to you, but I thought the idea was that we would be better off than now. If we are worse off, more dependent on the whims of Trump or the Chinese for trade deals, and with migrants from ex colonies instead of EU migrants, then I cannot see how you would see Brexit as a success.
I thought we are supposed to be free to do trade deals all over the world, which would more than make up for any shortfall caused by Brexit.
Evo1883
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And finally in regards to polls , let’s not forget the polls told us remain would win.
I rarely if ever take much notice of polls these days as you simply don’t know who they are polling .
Media use polls to try and sway opinion , this isn’t even debatable .
They failed with Brexit to sway the public and it’s been NON STOP propoganda since the result
I rarely if ever take much notice of polls these days as you simply don’t know who they are polling .
Media use polls to try and sway opinion , this isn’t even debatable .
They failed with Brexit to sway the public and it’s been NON STOP propoganda since the result
Don’t recall that. I don’t think the EU will fall apart whether Brexit is a success or not.
They would have been better off using modern methods of non stop propaganda such as big red buses and social media for spreading lies.
What do you think YouGov‘s motive is this time for making up statistics?
Evo1883
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I don’t think it will fall apart either
Just stop and be rational about this for a second .
Remain have had almost every media outlet on its side , has pushed anti Brexit rhetoric constantly for 2 years day in day out since the election and the several months leading up to the election , we’ve had the governor of the Bank of England tell us we were to be in recession , celebrities tell us how racist and xenophobic we are immediately after the vote and you actually think what swung the election was A red bus with a picture and slogan on the side lol
Evo1883
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I don’t think they are , but we dont know the political ideology of the people being polled .
Like taking a poll seriously on twitter , full of lefties ran by lefties
Grendel
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48% wasn’t it?
Also it still said a minority wanted to reverse the decision - that’s also true isn’t it?
How often and in how many cities was Carney with the public? If you count the majority of the printed media, which is owned by a handful of anti EU non resident billionaires and tax exiles, as on the side of remain, then you are being less than rational. Daily Mail, Telegraph, Sun and Daily Express together the by far most read papers in Britain and with online versions reaching even more... on the side of remain???????? Rofl
Grendel
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That’s why I laughed at Mars first poll as evidence - it predicted on the night before the referendum a big remain victory
Grendel
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You said the potential 3 day week is due to Brexit