The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (52 Viewers)

[Astute]

Again. Just because Junker is a c**t. That doesn’t make everyone else innocent.

I thought you were neutral and brought balance to the debate? If that was the case you’d appreciate the comparison and it is a valid comparison in the interest of balance.

Mart definitely needs some balance brought with his views. And so do you at times.

 

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[Astute]

Basically yes.

The negativity about the EU comes from the likes of Farage, Gove, Banks, Wigmore and BoJo. All of whom have been mean with the truth.

So Juncker says they are in very difficult times yet you say it is all positivity for the EU.

 

[Astute]

Juncker has nothing to do with the City.

But like I pointed out before several British MP's got sent to prison for making false expenses claims for less than 20k. They are government not banks.

Juncker did what he did. He got rewarded with a top EU job.

 

[Astute]

In comparison, yes.

Is she?

Think you ought to look into what is happening instead of saying wait 3 weeks.

 

[Astute]

We are dealing with Barnier.. not Juncker.

Barnier is Junckers puppet. And you know that.

 

[Astute]

It means 26 out of 28 governments approved him.

And why is that?

We didn't because he is one dodgy person with a very dodgy past. Do you disagree with this?

 

[martcov]

Yes...exactly why the EU leaders want financial institutions to move too. They want a slice of that for themselves!

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You are over the top. We are leaving. We leave the EU and therefore could lose our passporting rights for financial services. It is our decision. As you keep pointing out. The financial institutions will have to move because of Brexit not because the EU wants a slice of it.

 

[martcov]

And why is that?

We didn't because he is one dodgy person with a very dodgy past. Do you disagree with this?

I doubt very much that we voted against Juncker purely on moral grounds. Especially as we were with Hungary.

 

[martcov]

Barnier is Junckers puppet. And you know that.

Grow up.

 

[martcov]

Is she?

Think you ought to look into what is happening instead of saying wait 3 weeks.

You ought to follow the story instead of saying they are building prisons, which they are not.

 

[martcov]

But like I pointed out before several British MP's got sent to prison for making false expenses claims for less than 20k. They are government not banks.

Juncker did what he did. He got rewarded with a top EU job.

No he didn't.

 

[martcov]

So Juncker says they are in very difficult times yet you say it is all positivity for the EU.

Same old record. Juncker Juncker Juncker Juncker Juncker Juncker Juncker Juncker Juncker. That's about it for you.

 

[martcov]

Mart definitely needs some balance brought with his views. And so do you at times.

You don't know what the word means. It is just Juncker Juncker Juncker Juncker. So balanced.

 

[martcov]

Ah...there is a pattern forming with you that Mart always demonstrates too

UK: differing opinions = argument, stupid, clueless, lacking clear direction & we are doomed
EU countries/German coalition members: differing opinions = healthy debate & they will find a positive solution

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UK .. yes seems to be about that. See what happens today.

Germany: I don't know about healthy debate. I never even made a comment on that. I just said you should wait to see the outcome before you jump in. The rest is your usual BS.

 

[martcov]

Well let us wait & see how soon & what 'stronger EU regulation of finance' looks like. If it is anything like their border policy that few have given much attention to un the past...it will probably just be hot air

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What are you on about? The have always paid attention to the borders, but the pressure of a devasting wars broke the system temporarily.

 

[martcov]

Had she listened to some of our other lightweights over the yrs the EU might not be careering into an increasingly fragile scenario

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It is our government which is collapsing today.

 

[martcov]

Ureka! So Britain is most definitely NOT 3yrs behind due to Brexit. We have agreed something !

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No. It couldn't be could it because Brexit only happened in 2016. But... it can only now start negotiations which will take 3 years ( if successful ). The EU suppliers are further advanced.

 

[martcov]

Just because they haven't demonstrated it to you? Who on earth do you think you are?

The fact is, you have swallowed the EU position on everything...whether that publicly stated position is genuinely the state of play even currently, is another question.

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I am following the news as much as anyone else. That's all. They have not convinced me that they are aware of the consequences, either that or they are not bothered about them as they will probaly benefit personally in some other way.

Being in the EU is the staus quo. That is the position. The UK is leaving. It is up to the UK to have a unified position and say how they see the future relationship. The EU has it's rules and all remaining 27 countries have to abide by them. That's it. Now, do we still have a government?

 

[martcov]

I can’t think what the next straw clutching topic the dribbling lunatics will bring up next

Well actually I can

Yep.

Jaguar boss: Brexit threatens investment

 

[Grendel]

Yep.

Jaguar boss: Brexit threatens investment

Old news old sport

 

[Astute]

You are over the top. We are leaving. We leave the EU and therefore could lose our passporting rights for financial services. It is our decision. As you keep pointing out. The financial institutions will have to move because of Brexit not because the EU wants a slice of it.

Just like Juncker is taking the piss out of Switzerland over the same thing. And they are still paying into the system.

 

[Astute]

This is why I detest the bloke and won't allow anyone to make out that he has done nothing wrong

Jean-Claude Juncker's real scandal is his tax-haven homeland of Luxembourg

 

[martcov]

Old news old sport

Doesn't alter anything. You know well what I mean.

 

[martcov]

This is why I detest the bloke and won't allow anyone to make out that he has done nothing wrong

Jean-Claude Juncker's real scandal is his tax-haven homeland of Luxembourg

Name one person on here who has said that he has done nothing wrong. You can't.

 

[martcov]

This is why I detest the bloke and won't allow anyone to make out that he has done nothing wrong

Jean-Claude Juncker's real scandal is his tax-haven homeland of Luxembourg

Name one person on here who has said that he has done nothing wrong. You can't.

 

[skybluetony176]

This is why I detest the bloke and won't allow anyone to make out that he has done nothing wrong

Jean-Claude Juncker's real scandal is his tax-haven homeland of Luxembourg

No one has. PS for the benefit of this post I’ll reiterate again that Junker is a c**t, I’ll even add a proper one at that.

 

[Astute]

It is our government which is collapsing today.

I know Mart. Have been saying Merkel is in trouble for a bit now.

 

[Astute]

Name one person on here who has said that he has done nothing wrong. You can't.

So should he have a top job in the EU so he can lead investigations into what he did? He should be nowhere near power.

 

[Astute]

No one has. PS for the benefit of this post I’ll reiterate again that Junker is a c**t, I’ll even add a proper one at that.

So how has he got his position in the EU?

 

[skybluetony176]

So how has he got his position in the EU?

He’s a politician, it’s what they are. With the very odd exception.

 

[Grendel]

Doesn't alter anything. You know well what I mean.

Not really. Many production decisions have been made by JLR in the last couple of years which show its intent far more than Brexit bluster

 

[martcov]

I know Mart. Have been saying Merkel is in trouble for a bit now.

Haha... sportsmans bet: May goes first.

 

[martcov]

So should he have a top job in the EU so he can lead investigations into what he did? He should be nowhere near power.

There is a lot of that in the world... and no, I think investigations should be taken out by independent special councils as in the USA.

 

[martcov]

Not really. Many production decisions have been made by JLR in the last couple of years which show its intent far more than Brexit bluster

In the last couple of years being the operative sentence.. has the new factory near Cov been confirmed yet?

 

[Grendel]

In the last couple of years being the operative sentence.. has the new factory near Cov been confirmed yet?

Not at all the operative sentence as the strategic decisions were made years before that.

The factory I assume you refer to is the engineering and design centres. Yes they will of course happen.